Pancake407 0 Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is CO with A:heart:, A:club:. 2 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP3 calls.Flop: (9.50 SB) 7:diamond:, 4:diamond:, 3:diamond: (4 players)UTG+2 checks, MP3 bets, Hero calls, UTG+2 calls.Turn: (9.25 BB) 2:diamond: (3 players)UTG+2 checks, MP3 checks, Hero checks.River: (9.25 BB) A:spade: (3 players)UTG+2 bets, MP3 calls, Hero calls.Final Pot: 12.25 BBThoughts on all streets appreciated. Link to post Share on other sites
screech 0 Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 Very good. Link to post Share on other sites
Emptyeye 0 Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 Looks good to me too.Why would MP2 3-bet the flop and check the turn? Either he was very obviously going for a check-raise, or he feared that the naked ace flush got there. Weird either way though.But yeah, played fine. Link to post Share on other sites
TJ_Eckleburg 0 Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 How close or not close is the flop raise? Link to post Share on other sites
screech 0 Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 How close or not close is the flop raise?It's not that close. There's no reason for us to give MP credit for a better hand, and folding hands like 9dx is very good for us. Link to post Share on other sites
TJ_Eckleburg 0 Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 How close or not close is the flop raise?It's not that close. There's no reason for us to give MP credit for a better hand, and folding hands like 9dx is very good for us.I like the point about small diamonds folding.If 3-bet on the flop and led into on the turn, should we fold on THIS turn?I'm thinking yes, we should fold... but the little voice is saying "does the flop action commit us to showdown?" Link to post Share on other sites
Pancake407 0 Posted December 12, 2005 Author Share Posted December 12, 2005 Yes, I would fold this turn if I was led into. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 why aren't we suggesting bet/fold turn ? Link to post Share on other sites
psujohn 0 Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 why aren't we suggesting bet/fold turn ?Baby flushes will often not lead and they may very well call rather than raising thereby costing us more. Link to post Share on other sites
screech 0 Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 why aren't we suggesting bet/fold turn ?Smartest thing I've heard yet.Great point. I was wrong earlier.If we check the turn we should fold the river. If we plan on calling the river, we should bet this turn.Betting may get baby flushes to fold, and we only get raised when we have 0 outs. We should either check behind the turn and fold the river, or bet/fold the turn. Link to post Share on other sites
screech 0 Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 why aren't we suggesting bet/fold turn ?Baby flushes will often not lead and they may very well call rather than raising thereby costing us more.I don't understand how this makes checking the turn and calling the river better. Link to post Share on other sites
Pancake407 0 Posted December 13, 2005 Author Share Posted December 13, 2005 if we bet/fold the turn, and get called instead of raised...are we checking behind on the river? Link to post Share on other sites
psujohn 0 Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 if we bet/fold the turn, and get called instead of raised...are we checking behind on the river?If we bet the turn and get called I think we have to check/fold the river.It looks like UTG+2 wanted to c/r his flush on the turn. I think we can probably fold this river as played too. Does that help make the argument for bet/fold the turn? Link to post Share on other sites
Pancake407 0 Posted December 13, 2005 Author Share Posted December 13, 2005 yea, i think bet/fold is a good line for the turn. thanks. Link to post Share on other sites
TheCinciKid 0 Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Haven't read replies...I was gonna say cap the flop, but now that I think about it. I don't think that other guy is 3-betting with just the flush draw, he may already have to flush. So I think I like the way you played it.FWIW...you should definitely be betting a non-diamond turn card if it's checked to you. Flush draws are more likely than made flushes on a 3-flush flop and you can't give out free river cards.*read replies*I think I like the bet/fold idea on the turn. Link to post Share on other sites
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