two highly read-dependent hands

[mrdannyg 274]

alrighty i'm curious about how to play these hands given PT stats:Hand 1UTG+1 is 16.9 VPIP and 4.9 PFR, with 1.1 AFParty Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cxPreflop: Hero is MP3 with [Th], [Td]. UTG calls, UTG+1 raises, UTG calls.Flop: (5.50 SB) [8s], [9s], [6h] (2 players)UTG checks, UTG+1 bets, UTG calls.Turn: (3.75 BB) [2d] (2 players)UTG checks, UTG+1 checks.River: (3.75 BB) [2c] (2 players)UTG checks, UTG+1 checks.Final Pot: 3.75 BBfold, cold-call or reraise pre-flop?Hand 2UTG is 39.1/0.8/0.41UTG+2 is 9.0/4.5/2.14Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cxPreflop: Hero is UTG+1 with [Kc], [Jc]. UTG calls, Hero calls, UTG+2 calls, 5 folds, SB completes, BB checks.Flop: (5 SB) [2c], [7s], [5c] (5 players)SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, SB folds, BB calls, UTG folds, Hero calls.Turn: (5.50 BB) [6d] (3 players)BB checks, Hero checks, UTG+2 bets, BB calls, Hero calls.River: (8.50 BB) [Qh] (3 players)BB checks, Hero checks, UTG+2 checks.Final Pot: 8.50 BBComments?The second hand I'm mostly curious about equity and future play. I had just seen him play a hand on a similar flop where it had flopped 3 undercards to his overcards and he played it passively, so I assume he hask something like 88 here.cheers,daniel

[econ_tim 0]

It's important to say how many hands the stats are for. I have a hard time folding TT preflop, even against an EP raise from a tight preflop player. But if you have enough info on the guy, you might be able to say he only raises here (with one limper already in) with AA-TT and AKs (for example). Then you could fold.

[mk 11]

Hand 1: I'm 3-betting pre-flop. I mean, he isn't super rockish. If he caps we can narrow his range further.Hand 2: (1st, how big is the sample? utg+2 could just be getting cold decked) Either way, I'm probably 3-betting the flop for value. Unless UTG+2 is on a better flush draw (very unlikely), our equity is probably around 35%, and if our overcard outs are clean (like if he has TT or 99), our equity is more like 60%. The pot is 3 way, we have an edge.

[mrdannyg 274]

Hand 1: I'm 3-betting pre-flop. I mean, he isn't super rockish. If he caps we can narrow his range further.Hand 2: (1st, how big is the sample? utg+2 could just be getting cold decked) Either way, I'm probably 3-betting the flop for value. Unless UTG+2 is on a better flush draw (very unlikely), our equity is probably around 35%, and if our overcard outs are clean (like if he has TT or 99), our equity is more like 60%. The pot is 3 way, we have an edge.

all 3 were for samples 150-200 hands. not huge i know, but big enough i'll usually base minor decisions on them. folding 10-10 to one raise may not be a minor decision and i'm still not sure about that, especially being in position i really think i could've cold-called the raise, then raised the flop and gone from there.so on the flop of hand 2 - should i be reraising the flop, then checking the turn?

[TheCinciKid 0]

Hand 1 - I 3-bet pre-flop. I think that's ok, even though you may very well be behind. If he caps, we can pretty much assume that the worst he has is AK and we're probably folding if we don't set up.Hand 2 - I tend to raise this pre-flop. I really don't think that's spewing either. It is after all suited, if you're gonna play this hand I like to come in for a raise. Postflop, I think I play it about the same. You're probably only going to win if you catch one of your outs, so there's no reason to get crazy. The flop may be a decent spot to raise for equity. I would give your hand about 12 outs, meaning that you probably do have equity against 2 opponents and since the BB has already called he's almost certainly going to call one more. This could also possibly buy you a free card on the turn, though that's doubtful since you're OOP. I think it's close, but I certainly don't have a problem with a flop raise. In fact, based on his stats, I'd say it's entirely possible that UTG+2 is making a free card play on the flop. Though this becomes doubtful with his turn action.