TheCinciKid 0 Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 No distinct read on villain. I don't remember what I had on him when this hand ocurred, but I just looked at my database and his VP$IP is only 8.5 over 35 hands. No real read other than that. Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cxPreflop: Hero is UTG with K:spade:, K:heart:. Hero raises, SB calls, BB calls.Flop: (6 SB) J:diamond:, 6:club:, 6:spade: (3 players)SB checks, BB bets, Hero calls.Turn: (6 BB) 5:heart: (2 players)BB bets, Hero calls.River: (8 BB) T:heart: (2 players)BB bets, Hero calls.Final Pot: 10 BBDid I go into calldown mode too soon? Or is this a good instance of making the most when I'm ahead and losing the least when I'm behind? Link to post Share on other sites
pokerplayer24 0 Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 Raise turn, call down if 3-bet. You're minimizing your losses if you're behind but at the same time you're minimizing your wins when you're ahead. Its unlikely he folds JX at any point during this hand. Since this guy has an 8.5 vpip even through 35 hands I think you can safely raise the turn. AJ KJ QJ J10 all make a ton more sense then 6x. Link to post Share on other sites
Wingmaster05 0 Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 i like it. Link to post Share on other sites
TheIceman05 0 Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 I think this is a jack a LOT more often than it's a six, unless your opponent's really really passive. Not many opponents are betting out with a six here (though I think it's a great play). His low VPIP makes me think he's LESS likely to have a six here. On flops like this, I cap the flop, and slow down to any further aggression. If he leads or c/rs the turn, we've got a pretty good idea what his range is, and can call down pretty easily. Hope it was QQIce Link to post Share on other sites
screech 0 Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 After sb folds the flop, I like just calling the 3-bet. I would raise any turn card, and call down if 3-bet. Link to post Share on other sites
CoranMoran 0 Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 I think you're missing out on some bets.I call the Flop 3bet for the sole purpose of raising the Turn.His lead into the preflop raiser is usually a defense of Top Pair.--cnm Link to post Share on other sites
wrto4556 0 Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 After sb folds the flop, I like just calling the 3-bet. I would raise any turn card, and call down if 3-bet.if you're going to wait for the turn to raise, you have to fold to a 3-bet. Link to post Share on other sites
jayboogie 0 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 After sb folds the flop, I like just calling the 3-bet. I would raise any turn card, and call down if 3-bet.if you're going to wait for the turn to raise, you have to fold to a 3-bet.Yeah that's what I feel as well. You've gotta fold if 3-bet on the turn unless reads tell you otherwise. I'd prefere to just cap the flop here and consider dumping it on the turn if I'm check/raised. You guys are seriously going to lose a lot of money if you're going nuts with just an overpair on the latter streets, against certain opponents who will overplay their hands, it's fine to jam it, but against the average player they don't get this aggressive on latter streets if they can't beat an overpair. Link to post Share on other sites
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