bcs is a jopke

[Longshanks 0]

What a jopke, Oregon gets jobbed again for the second time since 2001 by the BCS money machine, I love college football but I can not overlook the money problem anymore, Oregon, the number 5 team in the nation will now play UNRANKED OUOhio State and Notre Dame, with worse records than Oregon will play in a BCS bowlsOregons only loss was to the number 1 team in the nationBring on the playoffs and get this jopke of a system outta here

[SuitedAces21 2,741]

Its all about the benjamins baby!! But I must admit I would much rather see Ohio State v Notre Dame than OSU v Oregon or ND v Oregon.

[Vade 0]

It's all about the national fan baseND has an ironclad contract that they get in if they're in the BCS top 8 or soAnd Ohio State is a member of the second most powerful conference in the country, after the SEC, a recent national champion and so forth

[Rabsox386 0]

Auburn and LSU both deserved bids over Oregon. Oregon isn't very good this year, yeah they only lost to USC, but they would get beaten easily by ND or OSU. Also with the common opponent factor, NDs lose to USC was a whole lot closer than the Drubbing that oregon received from the trojans.ND v OSU was the only way to go.

[princeof56k 0]

While leaving out Oregon looks bad initially, if you really look into it, you might be able to make some sense of it.ND and OSU both have 2 loses, but both of them played tougher schedules than Oregon. ND (against USC) and OSU (against Texas) came closer than anyone to beating the top 2 teams. While Oregon got killed by USC.If Oregon had scheduled a good opponent to play out of conference (they had Houston, Montana, and Fresno St), they would be in the BCS right now. They have no one but themselves to blame.

[Longshanks 0]

no, notre dames PRESEASON schedule was harder than anyones, notre dames other loss came to sub-par michigan stateITs as someone said earlier, oregon DESERVES to go more than OSU and ND but its all about money, not the football, notre dame deserves to burn down

[Longshanks 0]

Notre Dame was 3 wins over a team with a winning schedule!! yah real hard season

[princeof56k 0]

When a team schedules Houston, Montana, and Fresno St for their out of conference schedule, they are telling the rest of the nation, "I dont think we're that good, but with this preseason schedule and playing in the PAC-10, if we can somehow beat USC, we might get in the championship game this year." They wagered their entire season on the USC game and got crushed. They deserve what they get.I used to see Texas A&M pull that crap all the time back when the SWC was close to dying. Maybe thats why I feel so strongly about teams trying that tactic. I just dont like it when they try it and cry afterwards. Bothers me to no end.ND's schedule wasnt much better, but it wasnt their fault Tennessee had such an awful year. And a couple of other teams on their schedule had a slighly off year as well. At least they TRIED to schedule some tough teams.

[KowboyKoop 0]

Oregon MAYBE should have got in, I don't really know...Notre Dame DEFINITELY should not have got it, but of course, they are Notre Dame...Auburn DEFINITELY should have got in, and I think LSU might have deserved a bid more than Oregon...whatever though, the BCS is a joke, maybe Congress will actually do something about it....

[Guest]

The BS, oops i mean the BCS is just a front to put the teams that are going to generate $$ where they want them. Which may or may not be good for college football.

[bleacherbum3 9]

1. I disagree with the above poster saying that Fresno St. was a creampuff non-conference game for Oregon. They came pretty damn close to beating USC.2. Being from the Midwest, I can tell you that Notre Dame AND the Big Ten(eleven) are ridiculously overrated. Notre Dame had 1 quality win (at Michigan, and they were down this year), and FSU doesn't even deserve to be in a BCS bowl and they'll probably beat Penn St.3. The "automatic berths" are kind of a joke with the Big East still included. West Virginia is a good team, but top to bottom, the Big East rivals the MAC.Personally, I'm a big Miami Canes' fan, but we blew our shot by losing to Georgia Tech.I would have liked to see the at-large berths go to LSU and Oregon. I think Auburn is also deserving, but both at-large's can't come from the same conference. It sucks that LSU gets punished by having to play a conference title game (one more chance to slip up), unike USC or Penn St.

[TJ_Eckleburg 0]

Oregon is from the PAC-10, where they don't really play football. That's right, I said it. You silly kids and your "west coast offense." ooooh, I'm impressed.I have no problem shafting them.LSU had their shot, but we made a bloodbath out of that game.Long live the SEC.

[ol'number7 0]

I think the bcs works just fine. Everyone knows the rules/criteria ahead of time, there should be no surprises. No matter what system you use, someone will always be upset. Even College hoops, they take the top 64, and every year there are schools crying because they didn't get in, to the point they now take 65 but still can't make everyone happy. No system will ever be perfect, someone will always be left out

[TJ_Eckleburg 0]

It worked fine THIS YEAR, which is part of the problem.Every year the BCS doesn't completely screw someone over, it's a problem.We must do away with the BCS and get a playoff.

[KowboyKoop 0]

I think the bcs works just fine. Everyone knows the rules/criteria ahead of time, there should be no surprises.  No matter what system you use, someone will always be upset.  Even College hoops, they take the top 64, and every year there are schools crying because they didn't get in, to the point they now take 65 but still can't make everyone happy.  No system will ever be perfect, someone will always be left out

Yeah, everyone knows the "rules" ahead of time, but when one of those rules is that every exception in the book will be made to get a team with MAYBE one quality win and a bad loss at home into the BCS while overlooking MANY other more deserving teams just because of that team's fan base (Notre Dame, if you can't figure that out...), then the system is a problem. Notre Dame had one lucky win over a DECENT Michigan team, almost beat USC (almost doesn't count, Fresno St. almost beat them too...), and just ran up the score against a bunch of cupcakes...no way Notre Dame should get in ahead of Oregon, Auburn, OR even LSU.

[TJ_Eckleburg 0]

Whether you love or hate Notre Dame, there's no doubt AT ALL that they fulfilled their contractual obligations to get into a BCS bowl.And the fact that it's all really about money and viewers anyway helps Notre Dame's case.

[ol'number7 0]

ok Koop, if you have a better system lets hear it -- what is your criteria? Selection by committee? Can everyone agree on the selections? Just like in college hoops, where every year someone is crying...

[TJ_Eckleburg 0]

I'd like to just go on record now and say that I think it's funny that Koop's opinion as a sports fan is actually solicited in this forum.

[Hobbes 1]

I don't understand all the Koop bashing in here. I don't agree with all of his college football thoughts (I think USC will beat Texas), but at least he gives you his rationale and reasoning behind it and doesn't just flame people...Notre Dame and Ohio State got in the BCS because of money and TV ratings considerations; I think that much is clear. Whether that is the way college football should be is debatable. Oregon had a better record than Notre Dame and was ranked higher in the final BCS standings. Notre Dame had what they thought would be a tough schedule, but really it turned out to be very weak. Are we giving teams extra points for trying now? Just judge teams based on what happens on the field.

[zimmer4141 0]

I think Ohio State definitely deserves one of the two at large bids. They have 2 losses against the #2 and #3 BCS ranked teams, and both of those were pretty close.As far as Oregon, their best win is over Fresno State. Fresno gave USC a good run, then lost to Nevada the next week. Oregon played nobody in the weak Pac 10 this year, won every game they should've because their schedule was horrible.Even though I hope to go to Notre Dame, and I root for them, they don't deserve it either. They lost to Michigan State at home, even though MSU was playing much better at the start of the season. The SEC is overlooked again because there are so many quality teams that beat each other up. LSU should've gotten the other at-large bid, even though they got beat pretty badly by Georgia.

[KowboyKoop 0]

ok Koop, if you have a better system lets hear it -- what is your criteria?  Selection by committee?  Can everyone agree on the selections?  Just like in college hoops, where every year someone is crying...

I do have a better system. Force ND to join a conference, for one thing, and quit treating them differently than other teams b/c on contractual obligations and money and all that other crap. There is NO way that, unless you are a conference champion, that you should be getting into a BCS game without ONE real solid win (the Michigan win was decent at best...), and a LOSS to a BAD team AT HOME!!!!!! The only reason ND is in is b/c they gave USC a good run. Yeah, well so did Fresno St. Where is their BCS bid??? ND's schedule was real weak and they lost two games, BOTH at home. Oregon might not have had the toughest schedule either, but they only lost ONE game, and Auburn played a WAY WAY WAY WAY tougher schedule, had WAY more quality wins, and lost two games as well...and the same goes with LSU. There is NO way any rational person can REALLY think two loss ND deserves the bid over every single one of those teams. ND is clearly just in because of their fan base and contracts and their "independent" status and other stuff like that, which is bull$hit. Also, added to all that, college football needs a playoff.Also, comparing the situation to college basketball is faulty, becuase the teams that are left out of the NCAA tourney are teams that have lost like, 11, games and had MANY chances to change their fate, while in football, it is a ONE loss team which is left crying...big difference between a ONE loss team complaining about getting the shaft and a 12 loss team crying about it.

[KowboyKoop 0]

I don't understand all the Koop bashing in here.  I don't agree with all of his college football thoughts (I think USC will beat Texas), but at least he gives you his rationale and reasoning behind it and doesn't just flame people...Notre Dame and Ohio State got in the BCS because of money and TV ratings considerations; I think that much is clear.  Whether that is the way college football should be is debatable.  Oregon had a better record than Notre Dame and was ranked higher in the final BCS standings.  Notre Dame had what they thought would be a tough schedule, but really it turned out to be very weak.  Are we giving teams extra points for trying now?  Just judge teams based on what happens on the field.

People bash me because I say "ZING!" sometimes and because they can't deny that my points are right, yet they don't want to agree with me, so they simply resort to making fun of me...doesn't bother me though.Yes, ND and Ohio St. got in b/c of money and ratings considerations, and that is NOT how it should be done....no way ND should be in, not even close. Even Ohio St. is a little questionable, but not as much so as ND.

[Jadaki 1]

I agree with KK for once. The BCS sucks. Div 2 has a playoff system, I don't see what the big deal is about getting one in division 1.OSU deserves an at large, the lost two very close games to 2 of the top 3 teams in the country and beat everyone else with one of the hardest schedules in the country.ND deserves jack sh*t. They are the product of overexsposure and extreme hype. They lost at home to MSU... who won't even be going to a bowl game. They are going to get a beat down in thier bowl game. There isn't a team in the top 10 I wouldn't take over ND in a bowl game.

[KowboyKoop 0]

I agree with KK for once.  The BCS sucks.  Div 2 has a playoff system, I don't see what the big deal is about getting one in division 1.OSU deserves an at large, the lost two very close games to 2 of the top 3 teams in the country and beat everyone else with one of the hardest schedules in the country.ND deserves jack sh*t.  They are the product of overexsposure and extreme hype.  They lost at home to MSU... who won't even be going to a bowl game.  They are going to get a beat down in thier bowl game.  There isn't a team in the top 10 I wouldn't take over ND in a bowl game.

This ain't the first time you have agreed with me....come on...don't be scared..I know what I'm talking about, you can admit it...anyways, you are 100% right about ND. I'd take just about every Top 20 team over them right now, except maybe TCU...hell, even them maybe. I'm just not impressed with a team running up the score against patsies every week. And before someone brings up the close call with USC, please note what has happened to Fresno St. since THEY did the exact same thing...I don't seem them overhyped....ND is a "good" team (maybe) but not deserving of a BCS or even a post New Year's bowl at all....

[bleacherbum3 9]

Whether you love or hate Notre Dame, there's no doubt AT ALL that they fulfilled their contractual obligations to get into a BCS bowl.And the fact that it's all really about money and viewers anyway helps Notre Dame's case.

By that, you mean being overrated in both polls all year. boosting their BCS ranking.