Abbaddabba 0 Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cxPreflop: Hero is UTG+2 with [Kh], [Qh]. UTG calls, 1 fold, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls.Flop: (10 SB) [Ks], [7c], [5s] (5 players)SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets, MP3 folds, SB calls, BB folds, UTG calls.Turn: (8 BB) [5c] (3 players)SB checks, UTG bets, SB calls, UTG calls.River: (14 BB) [Qs] (3 players)SB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks.Final Pot: 14 BBNo info on SB. UTG was a dong berry who gaybet relentlessly without improvement. Link to post Share on other sites
screech 0 Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 Bet. Link to post Share on other sites
Abbaddabba 0 Posted December 4, 2005 Author Share Posted December 4, 2005 SB has me scared. Who calls 2 cold on the flop and turn without a flush draw there?The pot is so big that i have to call him down, and i think almost all better hands are check/raising here. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Zach6668 Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 SB has me scared. Who calls 2 cold on the flop and turn without a flush draw there?The pot is so big that i have to call him down, and i think almost all better hands are check/raising here.Uh.. Donkeys Link to post Share on other sites
AlphaOmega 0 Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 I've seen people check/call two cold all the way down when they are unsure about their kicker.Assuming we should bet the river, are we bet/folding or bet/calling? Link to post Share on other sites
screech 0 Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 SB has me scared. Who calls 2 cold on the flop and turn without a flush draw there?The pot is so big that i have to call him down, and i think almost all better hands are check/raising here.64, 86, pp's, Ax, two clubs, 7x, Kx. Link to post Share on other sites
nachunja 0 Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 say hero bets, then gets reraised.then what? Link to post Share on other sites
DrZebra 0 Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 B/C for sure!there is no indication someone is setting up for a c/r on the river.you're now beating AK, and SB (who should not "have us scared") is a passive wus. Link to post Share on other sites
econ_tim 0 Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 don't be scared of the scare card Link to post Share on other sites
screech 0 Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 say hero bets, then gets reraised.then what?Then we compare the size of the pot to the chances we have the best hand.So we would call here, unless we have a program that shows us our opponents flush.If you keep fearing these what if situations, you'll miss out on a lot of value. Link to post Share on other sites
Abbaddabba 0 Posted December 5, 2005 Author Share Posted December 5, 2005 It's not so much of a what if, as it is an issue of probability.How often will two people following this lines taken have neither a 5 or a flush draw on the turn? (or better, i guess) Link to post Share on other sites
DrZebra 0 Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 at 2/4 on party!!!!98% Link to post Share on other sites
Abbaddabba 0 Posted December 5, 2005 Author Share Posted December 5, 2005 2/4 games on party are hardly notoriously loose. Link to post Share on other sites
screech 0 Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 2/4 games on party are hardly notoriously loose.No, but they are filled with enough bad players that your hand is good here well over 50% of the time. Link to post Share on other sites
KDawgCometh 2 Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 2/4 games on party are hardly notoriously loose.then your table selection is sucking balls Link to post Share on other sites
Abbaddabba 0 Posted December 6, 2005 Author Share Posted December 6, 2005 then your table selection is sucking ballsConsidering ive had a total of 3 sessions at 2/4 so far, i think your sample is unsufficient. Link to post Share on other sites
KDawgCometh 2 Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 then your table selection is sucking ballsConsidering ive had a total of 3 sessions at 2/4 so far, i think your sample is unsufficient. two words: datamining Link to post Share on other sites
econ_tim 0 Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 krishnan, a regular on the 2+2 HUSH forum, sells large databases of $2/$4 Party handshttp://www.pokerhandhistories.com/$20 for 400,000 plus hands Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Zach6668 Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 then your table selection is sucking ballsConsidering ive had a total of 3 sessions at 2/4 so far, i think your sample is unsufficient. two words: dataminingI think that is one word... Link to post Share on other sites
KDawgCometh 2 Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 then your table selection is sucking ballsConsidering ive had a total of 3 sessions at 2/4 so far, i think your sample is unsufficient. two words: dataminingI think that is one word...no, its two, just for here it gets put together as one, either way, the OP needs to datamine like its his job. When you aren't playing, you should always be datamining and when you are playing, you can still datamine because of party's 10 table limit Link to post Share on other sites
royal_elliott 0 Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 two words: dataminingWhat's the best program for datamining, or, how do you go about datamining?Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites
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