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#1 duckie143

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Posted 02 December 2005 - 10:24 AM

i was in a hand at the wynn...im not gonna say who i was.....2/5 nlplayer A raises to 30 get 2 callers..player B and Cflop comes 235 rainbow....player A with AA bets 100..player B has has JJ and thinks for awhile and goes all in..for about 500 more....player C has a set of 2's....goes into the tank and fianlly folds...player A thinks hes beat and folds also and the weakest hand takes the pot...player C said i couldnt call with that board for that much...IF you were player A or C what would you do?

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Posted 02 December 2005 - 10:27 AM

duckie143 said:

i was in a hand at the wynn...im not gonna say who i was.....2/5 nlplayer A raises to 30 get 2 callers..player B and Cflop comes 235 rainbow....player A with AA bets 100..player B has has JJ and thinks for awhile and goes all in..for about 500 more....player C has a set of 2's....goes into the tank and fianlly folds...player A thinks hes beat and folds also and the weakest hand takes the pot...player C said i couldnt call with that board for that much...IF you were player A or C what would you do?
Think about playing at a lower limit???What does AA put his opponents on that they would call a $30 raise with that have him beat.Who calls a $30 raise with 22's preflopWho calls the $30 with the 22's then hits his set and folds?This is just ridiculous .. you're making it up!

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Posted 02 December 2005 - 10:27 AM

hmm call.GG

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Posted 02 December 2005 - 10:34 AM

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duckie143 said:

i was in a hand at the wynn...im not gonna say who i was.....2/5 nlplayer A raises to 30 get 2 callers..player B and Cflop comes 235 rainbow....player A with AA bets 100..player B has has JJ and thinks for awhile and goes all in..for about 500 more....player C has a set of 2's....goes into the tank and fianlly folds...player A thinks hes beat and folds also and the weakest hand takes the pot...player C said i couldnt call with that board for that much...IF you were player A or C what would you do?
Think about playing at a lower limit???What does AA put his opponents on that they would call a $30 raise with that have him beat.Who calls a $30 raise with 22's preflopWho calls the $30 with the 22's then hits his set and folds?This is just ridiculous .. you're making it up!
Watch live at the bike, people call raises with K4 offsuit.
QUOTE (CozMyn @ Sunday, March 8th, 2009, 5:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i tried to talk here about that program, the RNG , not to talk about when to accept all in without to see flop.
You can accept all in whenever you want, or whenever you feel lucky, but in virtual room's is not like in reality. In reality anything is possible... in virtual rooms you can be "the one" who knows the future, or who can change the future.

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Posted 02 December 2005 - 10:37 AM

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duckie143 said:

i was in a hand at the wynn...im not gonna say who i was.....2/5 nlplayer A raises to 30 get 2 callers..player B and Cflop comes 235 rainbow....player A with AA bets 100..player B has has JJ and thinks for awhile and goes all in..for about 500 more....player C has a set of 2's....goes into the tank and fianlly folds...player A thinks hes beat and folds also and the weakest hand takes the pot...player C said i couldnt call with that board for that much...IF you were player A or C what would you do?
Think about playing at a lower limit???What does AA put his opponents on that they would call a $30 raise with that have him beat.Who calls a $30 raise with 22's preflopWho calls the $30 with the 22's then hits his set and folds?This is just ridiculous .. you're making it up!
Watch live at the bike, people call raises with K4 offsuit.
These aren't cash games at the bike though .... are they?

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Posted 02 December 2005 - 10:37 AM

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duckie143 said:

i was in a hand at the wynn...im not gonna say who i was.....2/5 nlplayer A raises to 30 get 2 callers..player B and Cflop comes 235 rainbow....player A with AA bets 100..player B has has JJ and thinks for awhile and goes all in..for about 500 more....player C has a set of 2's....goes into the tank and fianlly folds...player A thinks hes beat and folds also and the weakest hand takes the pot...player C said i couldnt call with that board for that much...IF you were player A or C what would you do?
Think about playing at a lower limit???What does AA put his opponents on that they would call a $30 raise with that have him beat.Who calls a $30 raise with 22's preflopWho calls the $30 with the 22's then hits his set and folds?This is just ridiculous .. you're making it up!
i guess you dont play at a 2/5 table often at a casino...30 dollar raises are normal in these games...

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Posted 02 December 2005 - 10:37 AM

Player C, re-raise to get A outPlayer A call once C folded...2-5 NL in Vegas, you have to assume they are only calling PF raises with good cards...(sw)

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Posted 02 December 2005 - 10:40 AM

duckie143 said:

Razor said:

duckie143 said:

i was in a hand at the wynn...im not gonna say who i was.....2/5 nlplayer A raises to 30 get 2 callers..player B and Cflop comes 235 rainbow....player A with AA bets 100..player B has has JJ and thinks for awhile and goes all in..for about 500 more....player C has a set of 2's....goes into the tank and fianlly folds...player A thinks hes beat and folds also and the weakest hand takes the pot...player C said i couldnt call with that board for that much...IF you were player A or C what would you do?
Think about playing at a lower limit???What does AA put his opponents on that they would call a $30 raise with that have him beat.Who calls a $30 raise with 22's preflopWho calls the $30 with the 22's then hits his set and folds?This is just ridiculous .. you're making it up!
i guess you dont play at a 2/5 table often at a casino...30 dollar raises are normal in these games...
Well .. yes, but that doesn't change the fact that calling $30 with 22's is a bad call!

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Posted 02 December 2005 - 10:42 AM

Ugly hand. Played badly by everyone. What a useless post (mine, not the OP).
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Posted 02 December 2005 - 10:45 AM

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Well .. yes, but that doesn't change the fact that calling $30 with 22's is a bad call!
w/ stacks >600, he's getting great implied odds to hit a set and bust aces and kings. too bad he couldnt make the right read.

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Posted 02 December 2005 - 10:50 AM

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Well .. yes, but that doesn't change the fact that calling $30 with 22's is a bad call!
w/ stacks >600, he's getting great implied odds to hit a set and bust aces and kings. too bad he couldnt make the right read.
well player B that had JJ...would showdown with the nuts everyhand before that...he wasnt playng crazy..just a solid player....player A coulnt call with AA...he said any set beats me and A4 beats me...even though player B...all in bet was a bad move...HE was the one putting the pressure on them.....its not like Player A went all in and player B called...

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Posted 02 December 2005 - 10:55 AM

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Well .. yes, but that doesn't change the fact that calling $30 with 22's is a bad call!
w/ stacks >600, he's getting great implied odds to hit a set and bust aces and kings. too bad he couldnt make the right read.
player c is playing above their limits. that can be the only explanation for folding a set , especially on a rainbow board. player c cant afford to put 600 in the pot w/o having the nuts, so they need to move down in limits cuz it just cost them a grand. after b and c go allin, it is possible for aa to lay this down. i would lay down more often than call Maybe like 80/20. b is obviously committed for the rest of c's raisesince c folded, not sure how A can fold to that reraise, A can either put B on 222, 333, 555, kk, qq, jj, tt, 99, 88, 77, 66, 44

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Posted 02 December 2005 - 11:01 AM

duckie143 said:

Davin said:

Razor said:

Well .. yes, but that doesn't change the fact that calling $30 with 22's is a bad call!
w/ stacks >600, he's getting great implied odds to hit a set and bust aces and kings. too bad he couldnt make the right read.

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well player B that had JJ...would showdown with the nuts everyhand before that...he wasnt playng crazy..just a solid player....player A coulnt call with AA...he said any set beats me and A4 beats me...
If he's a "solid player" then you don't put him on A-4 or 222, 333, ... maybe 555, but unlikely, and even so, you have re-draws ... I think AA has to call.

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even though player B...all in bet was a bad move...HE was the one putting the pressure on them.....its not like Player A went all in and player B called..
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I think player B was a bit aggressive, I don't think he had to risk his whole stack there, but he obviously doesn't want anyone drawing out on him. Although the only draw that seems reasonable is someone with a big A on a gutshot. And player C folding the set is just insane. IMO

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Posted 02 December 2005 - 11:09 AM

If I have 22 in that spot, i am willing to put all the money in the middle. Only two hands I fear, LOTS of hands which I am crushing.If I have AA in that spot, I probably go broke at least 50 percent of the time, more with no reads on players, maybe less of the time if I have good reads on the players.Also, the OP was player C.
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Posted 02 December 2005 - 11:14 AM

Sounds like player C was the button, so the preflop call doesn't sound that bad (implied odds), but folding the one had that you wanted to make in the first place? That makes my brain hurt.

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Posted 02 December 2005 - 11:17 AM

Razor said:

dms26 said:

Razor said:

duckie143 said:

i was in a hand at the wynn...im not gonna say who i was.....2/5 nlplayer A raises to 30 get 2 callers..player B and Cflop comes 235 rainbow....player A with AA bets 100..player B has has JJ and thinks for awhile and goes all in..for about 500 more....player C has a set of 2's....goes into the tank and fianlly folds...player A thinks hes beat and folds also and the weakest hand takes the pot...player C said i couldnt call with that board for that much...IF you were player A or C what would you do?
Think about playing at a lower limit???What does AA put his opponents on that they would call a $30 raise with that have him beat.Who calls a $30 raise with 22's preflopWho calls the $30 with the 22's then hits his set and folds?This is just ridiculous .. you're making it up!
Watch live at the bike, people call raises with K4 offsuit.
These aren't cash games at the bike though .... are they?
they show both cash games and tournies, last night was 5-10 NL. Tonight is supposed to be 10-20 NL
QUOTE (CozMyn @ Sunday, March 8th, 2009, 5:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i tried to talk here about that program, the RNG , not to talk about when to accept all in without to see flop.
You can accept all in whenever you want, or whenever you feel lucky, but in virtual room's is not like in reality. In reality anything is possible... in virtual rooms you can be "the one" who knows the future, or who can change the future.

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Posted 02 December 2005 - 11:18 AM

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Davin said:

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Well .. yes, but that doesn't change the fact that calling $30 with 22's is a bad call!
w/ stacks >600, he's getting great implied odds to hit a set and bust aces and kings. too bad he couldnt make the right read.
player c is playing above their limits. that can be the only explanation for folding a set , especially on a rainbow board. player c cant afford to put 600 in the pot w/o having the nuts, so they need to move down in limits cuz it just cost them a grand. after b and c go allin, it is possible for aa to lay this down. i would lay down more often than call Maybe like 80/20. b is obviously committed for the rest of c's raisesince c folded, not sure how A can fold to that reraise, A can either put B on 222, 333, 555, kk, qq, jj, tt, 99, 88, 77, 66, 44
i think player C made a good laydown.....player C only had 30 dollars in the pot...no reason to risk another 600 without the nuts......

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Posted 02 December 2005 - 11:19 AM

dms26 said:

Razor said:

dms26 said:

Razor said:

duckie143 said:

i was in a hand at the wynn...im not gonna say who i was.....2/5 nlplayer A raises to 30 get 2 callers..player B and Cflop comes 235 rainbow....player A with AA bets 100..player B has has JJ and thinks for awhile and goes all in..for about 500 more....player C has a set of 2's....goes into the tank and fianlly folds...player A thinks hes beat and folds also and the weakest hand takes the pot...player C said i couldnt call with that board for that much...IF you were player A or C what would you do?
Think about playing at a lower limit???What does AA put his opponents on that they would call a $30 raise with that have him beat.Who calls a $30 raise with 22's preflopWho calls the $30 with the 22's then hits his set and folds?This is just ridiculous .. you're making it up!
Watch live at the bike, people call raises with K4 offsuit.
These aren't cash games at the bike though .... are they?
they show both cash games and tournies, last night was 5-10 NL. Tonight is supposed to be 10-20 NL
Well, sounds pretty good! ... I dont' get the stations though, or else I'd def. be watching.

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Posted 02 December 2005 - 11:24 AM

Razor said:

dms26 said:

Razor said:

These aren't cash games at the bike though .... are they?
they show both cash games and tournies, last night was 5-10 NL. Tonight is supposed to be 10-20 NL
Well, sounds pretty good! ... I dont' get the stations though, or else I'd def. be watching.
it's on the internet not TV. thebike.com
QUOTE (CozMyn @ Sunday, March 8th, 2009, 5:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i tried to talk here about that program, the RNG , not to talk about when to accept all in without to see flop.
You can accept all in whenever you want, or whenever you feel lucky, but in virtual room's is not like in reality. In reality anything is possible... in virtual rooms you can be "the one" who knows the future, or who can change the future.

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Posted 02 December 2005 - 11:24 AM

duckie143 said:

dscoot said:

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Well .. yes, but that doesn't change the fact that calling $30 with 22's is a bad call!
w/ stacks >600, he's getting great implied odds to hit a set and bust aces and kings. too bad he couldnt make the right read.
player c is playing above their limits. that can be the only explanation for folding a set , especially on a rainbow board. player c cant afford to put 600 in the pot w/o having the nuts, so they need to move down in limits cuz it just cost them a grand. after b and c go allin, it is possible for aa to lay this down. i would lay down more often than call Maybe like 80/20. b is obviously committed for the rest of c's raisesince c folded, not sure how A can fold to that reraise, A can either put B on 222, 333, 555, kk, qq, jj, tt, 99, 88, 77, 66, 44
i think player C made a good laydown.....player C only had 30 dollars in the pot...no reason to risk another 600 without the nuts......
No way! ...Why do you need the nuts to call an all in?? ... And why would anybody raise 500 into a $90 pot if they had the nuts ... I.e. one of the 3 hands that have you beat! I think player C made an awful play. But he's obviosly scared to lose his money, which is why in my first post, I said A and C should be playing lower limits.




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