GodOfEntropy 0 Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 SB is 70/16/1.75, everyone else could be considered loose-passive. I am debating whether I should have just called on the flop and then raised any non-spade on the turn. This gets more money in the pot, and any spade draw here is not going anywhere regardless of pot odds. What are your thoughts?Ultimate Bet 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (6 handed) Preflop: Hero is CO with [7h], [5h]. 1 fold, SB completes, BB checks.Flop: (4 SB) [6h], [8s], [4s] (4 players)SB bets, BB folds, MP folds, Hero calls.Turn: (6 BB) [9h] (2 players)SB bets, SB calls.River: (10 BB) [Ks] (2 players)SB checks, Hero bets, SB calls.Final Pot: 12 BB Link to post Share on other sites
psujohn 0 Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 Fold this pre-flop.I like the flop raise given your position relative to the flop raiser. Since everyone's put in 1 they'll likely put in another. Kinda sucks that SB re-raises. I'd consider capping the flop but calling seems to have earned you more in this case. Link to post Share on other sites
TheCinciKid 0 Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 Fold pre-flop. Even at 6-max your hand is really too weak IMO.Since you played it, I like the way you played it postflop, so long as you're willing to shut down if the turn is a spade, I don't mind waiting to put in the raise like you did. Link to post Share on other sites
GodOfEntropy 0 Posted December 2, 2005 Author Share Posted December 2, 2005 I generally agree that a small suited one-gapper is a good fold in an aggressive 6-max game, but the key word is aggressive. This table was playing very loose and passive, generally with at least 4 to a flop and rarely with a pf raise. I think these are good conditions to play such a speculative hand, especially from the CO.That being said, and given the same table conditions I described, at what point do you draw the line concerning playable speculative hands - 98s, 87s? I only have about 9K hands at this level playing 6-max so I have nowhere near enough data to determine if it is profitable to play less obvious hands like these. Link to post Share on other sites
TheCinciKid 0 Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 I don't play a lot of six-max, but I'd say gappers probably aren't very profitable no matter what. I really don't think most suited connectors are either b/c there are less people there to build your pot for you when you do hit. In addition you're going to be playing alot of heads-up pots in which suited connectors are very likely not very profitable. All in all, I would think they would tend to go down greatly in value in a six-max game. Link to post Share on other sites
GodOfEntropy 0 Posted December 2, 2005 Author Share Posted December 2, 2005 I think everything you wrote is correct, but I think it applies most to the 6-max games at limits above 0.25/0.50 where raised pots are the norm and 4-5 people in a pot can be rare. With enough limpers and a passive table, it does seem to me that at the very least it is less of an incorrect decision to play them, although I still do not have enough data to determine if it is not merely less of an incorrect decision, but rather a correct one. Link to post Share on other sites
Mattnxtc 0 Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 hand is played great...just callin that flop would be absolutely wrong. i dont mind just callin the 3 bet with the intention of doing exactly what you did on the turn...nh Link to post Share on other sites
Verdimme 0 Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 Apart from the preflop call, i like it. In 6 max, you want to go for high card strength. The value of suited connectors is really decreased, because there are fewer players that have a chance to enter the pot. Im calling there with JTs, QTs and im folding the rest. Im raising QJs and everything above. Link to post Share on other sites
screech 0 Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 I generally agree that a small suited one-gapper is a good fold in an aggressive 6-max game, but the key word is aggressive. SB is 70/16/1.7With that player behind me, I'm folding this hand in a heartbeat.Small suited connectors generally don't do well SH. I rarely try to play anything lower than 98s (outside the blinds), and thats only under ideal conditions (2 limpers to me, or all folds vs tight blinds).Postflop is great. Link to post Share on other sites
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