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[GodOfEntropy]

SB is 70/16/1.75, everyone else could be considered loose-passive. I am debating whether I should have just called on the flop and then raised any non-spade on the turn. This gets more money in the pot, and any spade draw here is not going anywhere regardless of pot odds. What are your thoughts?Ultimate Bet 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (6 handed) Preflop: Hero is CO with [7h], [5h]. 1 fold, SB completes, BB checks.Flop: (4 SB) [6h], [8s], [4s] (4 players)SB bets, BB folds, MP folds, Hero calls.Turn: (6 BB) [9h] (2 players)SB bets, SB calls.River: (10 BB) [Ks] (2 players)SB checks, Hero bets, SB calls.Final Pot: 12 BB

[psujohn]

Fold this pre-flop.I like the flop raise given your position relative to the flop raiser. Since everyone's put in 1 they'll likely put in another. Kinda sucks that SB re-raises. I'd consider capping the flop but calling seems to have earned you more in this case.

[TheCinciKid]

Fold pre-flop. Even at 6-max your hand is really too weak IMO.Since you played it, I like the way you played it postflop, so long as you're willing to shut down if the turn is a spade, I don't mind waiting to put in the raise like you did.

[GodOfEntropy]

I generally agree that a small suited one-gapper is a good fold in an aggressive 6-max game, but the key word is aggressive. This table was playing very loose and passive, generally with at least 4 to a flop and rarely with a pf raise. I think these are good conditions to play such a speculative hand, especially from the CO.That being said, and given the same table conditions I described, at what point do you draw the line concerning playable speculative hands - 98s, 87s? I only have about 9K hands at this level playing 6-max so I have nowhere near enough data to determine if it is profitable to play less obvious hands like these.

[TheCinciKid]

I don't play a lot of six-max, but I'd say gappers probably aren't very profitable no matter what. I really don't think most suited connectors are either b/c there are less people there to build your pot for you when you do hit. In addition you're going to be playing alot of heads-up pots in which suited connectors are very likely not very profitable. All in all, I would think they would tend to go down greatly in value in a six-max game.

[GodOfEntropy]

I think everything you wrote is correct, but I think it applies most to the 6-max games at limits above 0.25/0.50 where raised pots are the norm and 4-5 people in a pot can be rare. With enough limpers and a passive table, it does seem to me that at the very least it is less of an incorrect decision to play them, although I still do not have enough data to determine if it is not merely less of an incorrect decision, but rather a correct one.

[Mattnxtc]

hand is played great...just callin that flop would be absolutely wrong. i dont mind just callin the 3 bet with the intention of doing exactly what you did on the turn...nh

[Verdimme]

Apart from the preflop call, i like it. In 6 max, you want to go for high card strength. The value of suited connectors is really decreased, because there are fewer players that have a chance to enter the pot. Im calling there with JTs, QTs and im folding the rest. Im raising QJs and everything above.

[screech]

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I generally agree that a small suited one-gapper is a good fold in an aggressive 6-max game, but the key word is aggressive.

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SB is 70/16/1.7

With that player behind me, I'm folding this hand in a heartbeat.Small suited connectors generally don't do well SH. I rarely try to play anything lower than 98s (outside the blinds), and thats only under ideal conditions (2 limpers to me, or all folds vs tight blinds).Postflop is great.