screech 0 Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cxPreflop: Hero is SB with T:diamond:, T:spade:. 2 folds, BB calls, CO calls.Flop: (9 SB) 6:diamond:, K:diamond:, 8:club: (3 players)Hero bets, BB folds, CO calls.Turn: (5.50 BB) 2:heart: (2 players)Hero bets, CO calls.River: (7.50 BB) Q:spade: (2 players)Hero bets...Look good? Link to post Share on other sites
mkeller3086 0 Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 i don't know of any better hands that are folding therei can't think of too many hands here that raise either so i'm not concerned about leaving yourself open to a raise herei think it all depends on your opponentif you think he would take a shot at the pot ifyou check to him i would do thatif he's loose passive and will call down a lot of hands, bet only a few if you check to him, and not fold very much i'm all for betting like you didup to the river i play the exact same way and i probably play the river the same too, but i play 1/2 and that becomes a much clearer value bet at 1/2 than 3/6 Link to post Share on other sites
Verdimme 0 Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 Hmm by betting that river you can maybe make him fold a passively played JJ. I cant see him calling with a hand that you beat though. Was the bet for value?I like the flop and turn. Link to post Share on other sites
AlphaOmega 0 Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 Looks peachy. Link to post Share on other sites
screech 0 Posted November 29, 2005 Author Share Posted November 29, 2005 The river bet was for value.Villian was an average player. Not overly aggressive, but not passive either. Link to post Share on other sites
Sysvr4 0 Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 Haven't read replies.I like it up to the river and then it's read dependent. I like to check/call in these situations usually to give my opponent a chance to bluff his missed diamond draw. He won't call with a busted draw, but he may bet.If villain is somewhat likely to bluff, check/call the river. If he's a passive calling station, bet/fold.Jeff Link to post Share on other sites
Verdimme 0 Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 Hmm its really a tough river. It sucks to get raised there. One part of me says c/c, the other says value bet. I cant decide. Link to post Share on other sites
screech 0 Posted November 29, 2005 Author Share Posted November 29, 2005 Haven't read replies.I like it up to the river and then it's read dependent. I like to check/call in these situations usually to give my opponent a chance to bluff his missed diamond draw. He won't call with a busted draw, but he may bet.If villain is somewhat likely to bluff, check/call the river. If he's a passive calling station, bet/fold.Jeff He's neither over aggresive, nor a passive calling station. He's a decent, straightforward player. I've been trying to value bet a lot more at 6-max because people call you down with nothing. I've had very good success with it so far.While villian could have a diamond draw, it's more likely he has JJ/a pp below ten given the action. Also, a busted draw won't bluff at this board all that often. If I check the turn after 3-betting pf and betting the whole way, I'm telling him I'm committed to sd. Link to post Share on other sites
DrZebra 0 Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 he may realize how much you love to B/F and raise...hahaha Link to post Share on other sites
screech 0 Posted November 29, 2005 Author Share Posted November 29, 2005 he may realize how much you love to B/F and raise...hahahaI think he's much more likely to see a river check for what it is, allowing him to play the river perfectly if I check. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 I've been trying to value bet a lot more at 6-max because people call you down with nothing. I've had very good success with it so far.tru dat. Link to post Share on other sites
KickBallStud 0 Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 I really think its read dependent on the river.If you think he has a smaller pp, an Ax, or a busted draw then a value bet is probably the right move.his call on the turn is what scares me, you claimed he was a decent player at the 3/6 level, so his call here would make me more inclined to just check the river and call his bet. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 I really think its read dependent on the river.If you think he has a ......., or a busted draw then a value bet is probably the right move.why ? his call on the turn is what scares me, you claimed he was a decent player at the 3/6 level, so his call here would make me more inclined to just check the river and call his bet. why?this makes no sense to me.I'm rather new though and willing to learn Link to post Share on other sites
screech 0 Posted November 29, 2005 Author Share Posted November 29, 2005 I really think its read dependent on the river.If you think he has a smaller pp, an Ax, or a busted draw then a value bet is probably the right move.his call on the turn is what scares me, you claimed he was a decent player at the 3/6 level, so his call here would make me more inclined to just check the river and call his bet.Why does his call scare you?To me it indicates he either a small pp or a flush draw. Any king is raising the turn. I think JJ/a set usually throws in a raise somewhere too. Two high cards like AQ probably give up when I bet the turn. So his most likely holdings are a pp smaller than mine, or a busted fd. Now he may have paired his queen with a busted flush draw, but he certainly won't raise the river if he did pair, but he'll probably bet if checked to. I lose the same either way.If he has a busted draw, he's going to be discouraged to bluff given the way I've played the hand. I've shown strength all the way to the river, and a river check basically indicates that I want to see sd cheaply with a marginal hand. Most people aren't bluffing here. For the same reason, a pp won't value bet.However, a pp may call a bet, hoping I have a busted draw, to high unpaired cards like AJ, or a smaller pp. Link to post Share on other sites
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