feedback on kk laydown!
Started by ahalvara, Feb 11 2005 12:44 AM
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#1
Posted 11 February 2005 - 12:44 AM
Ok Guys and Girls, This has been bugging me for the past week and I can't get it out of my head without hearing that I might have made a smart decision. I am playing in a $100 NL Cash game at the Commerce Casino in Los Angeles. I have about 75 dollars in front of me and I am dealt K
K
and I am UTG. With the Blinds at 2/3 I raise $15 dollars. 2 Limpers in Middle Position and the Small Blind Re-Raises 10 so I call and they fold. The flop hits Q
9
3
The small blind goes all in with about 80 and covers me. After what seemed like an eternity of thinking I layed the cowboys down putting my opponent on A
Q
or just a
on a flush draw. Do you think this was the right move? It has been bugging me for a week already and I just needed some feedback on it. Thanks guys
"Last night I stayed up late playing poker with Tarot cards. I got a full house and four people died." -- Steven Wright
#2
Posted 11 February 2005 - 12:54 AM
If he's got ace queen of hearts you're still 50 50 to win. That was a really bad lay down. You could have reraised all in preflop, a lot of people would say that's the right thing to do. I think it's ok to call. But on that kind of flop you absolutely have to call.
#3
Posted 11 February 2005 - 01:11 AM
You are probably right, thanks for the feedback it will definatley help the next time I get KK.
:wink:
"Last night I stayed up late playing poker with Tarot cards. I got a full house and four people died." -- Steven Wright
#4
Posted 11 February 2005 - 12:05 PM
you got yourself in trouble by not reraising preflop, you don't gain enough information about your opponents hand. He has one of three things on that flop. AA, AQ heart draw, or a set. You can't ask for a better flop with kings. No Ace, no straight, only two to a flush. If you won't play your kings here, where will you play them? Now, if you believe he has AA or a set, then lay it down. But you can't possible know this because you didnt reraise preflop.
#5
Posted 11 February 2005 - 01:35 PM
I put your opponent on QQ or AA. Either he flopped his set and pushed all-in to make you pay for the potential flush draw, or he was ahead all along with aces. (Although if you had raised 5x BB preflop and I found aces, I would push right there).With the reraise preflop, I just can't put him on any two random hearts. He almost certainly had a pair in the hole. It's possible he had AQ, but in my experience at lower limits most players are content to just call large raises preflop with hands like AQ or AJ, and they reraise when they catch one of those high pocket pairs that gives you that warm, tingly feeling in your balls.
- Lucky Clubs -
#6
Posted 12 February 2005 - 08:12 PM
well since i was not playing based on what you said only, I would not have laid the hand down. If the $$ bother you to call that much you shouldn't be playing. You would have to put him on a set to lay down, AhQh you would be a coin flip and the pot is offering slighty better then that. actually much better, 2 to 1 on your money there was 55 on the flop plus his all in, you had 50 left so the pot had 55 plus his all in so 105 and 50 to call.Even with all that, don't worry about if you made a bad play, just learn from it. On another note, you make it 15 which is a raise of 12, how does he raise it 10 more, his raise should have to be at least 12 making it 27 to go.
#7
Posted 12 February 2005 - 08:20 PM
I think it's a set more often than it's a flush draw. If you strongly feel it's a flush draw you should call it.Also, it's the Commerce $100 buy in game. It's probably JQ.
I've never played poker.
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