me have 2 pair. me bet. grunt.

[mk 11]

MP just sat down.Full Tilt $3/6, 8 handedHero is UTG+2 with Q J Folds to Hero who raises, 2 folds, MP3 calls, 2 folds, SB calls, BB folds.Flop (7 sb):T Q J SB checks, Hero bets, MP calls, SB folds.Turn (5.5 bb):8 Hero bets, MP calls.River (7.5 bb):6 Hero bets, MP calls.Questions - anyone slow down on the turn? My hand kinda turns to poo, right? I was planning on bet/folding the turn and river u/i. Thoughts?

[screech 0]

I think you played it fine. I think I'd bet/call the turn, and check/call any non-diamond river UI (assuming villian raised the turn).

[dms26 3]

I guess he could have a 9, but what else doesn't raise you on that turn that has you beat? It's not a bad bet, he's showing no aggression at all.

[mk 11]

yeah, you're right. i meant b/c the turn. and i think c/c is right on the river if he raises the turn. this kinda reminded me of playing an overpair on a coordinated board. i was thinking i just want to show it down, but after villain remained so passive i felt like i had some fold equity on the river.

[dms26 3]

yeah, you're right. i meant b/c the turn. and i think c/c is right on the river if he raises the turn.

I agree, that's a good line. I might possibly b/f the turn against a solid player.

[TheIceman05 0]

yeah, you're right. i meant b/c the turn. and i think c/c is right on the river if he raises the turn. this kinda reminded me of playing an overpair on a coordinated board. i was thinking i just want to show it down, but after villain remained so passive i felt like i had some fold equity on the river.

Fold equity? I don't think we're folding out a better hand here, ever.You're betting the river for value if he's just poop-calling. If he has a 9 in his hand, he kinda sucks

[dimseven 0]

What do Y'all think is best with Q-J OFFsuit 2nd or 3rd to act (UTG+2 to around MP+1)? Fold or raise?It's kind of a general question.

[Actuary 3]

What do Y'all think is best with Q-J OFFsuit 2nd or 3rd to act (UTG+2 to around MP+1)? Fold or raise?It's kind of a general question.

fold.if I'm in a tight enough game and blinds don't defend, raise; but then leave.I used to limp this in EP/MP... not good.

[TheIceman05 0]

What do Y'all think is best with Q-J OFFsuit 2nd or 3rd to act (UTG+2 to around MP+1)? Fold or raise?It's kind of a general question.

I usually fold. This is a hand I just hate playing. If someone raises, your hand sucks balls.QJs (SSSOOOOOTED) is a hand I love limping ith in EP, though.Ice

[mrdannyg 274]

What do Y'all think is best with Q-J OFFsuit 2nd or 3rd to act (UTG+2 to around MP+1)? Fold or raise?It's kind of a general question.

fold.if I'm in a tight enough game and blinds don't defend, raise; but then leave.I used to limp this in EP/MP... not good.

i like showing up late. that way i can just quote.IMO, this is correct. you should be raising this in a very tight game. but then you should leave this game since its too tight. the only exception is if the game has a few very loose players who'll cold-call your raise with crap and the blinds in this hand are very weak. but that's a pretty specific situation.otherwise, fold this hand EP/MP. depending on the players behind you, you can limp in late MP, CO, button. you should raise first to enter if you do play it, though that's true for most hands.limping EP/MP is something most of us do initially, then learn better. so take our word and just don't. you'll feel really smart folding two face cards.