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#1 Wingmaster05

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Posted 24 November 2005 - 06:05 PM

Unknown villain, second hand i played. My range of hands for his is 55-JJ, AK. The way he plays the cards after the flop though...makes me think i can't beat anything onthe river.FullTiltPoker Game #306642397: Table Burnham - $1/$2 - Limit Hold'em - 20:50:03 ET - 2005/11/24Seat 1: tiltedtom ($40)Seat 2: Wingmaster05 ($65.50)Seat 3: fstfwd ($61.25)Seat 4: corvettecat ($58.50)Seat 5: poker482001 ($31.25)Seat 6: UGADawg ($50)Seat 7: bbdole ($46)Seat 8: CURAISE1000 ($26)Seat 9: doug528 ($17.75)poker482001 posts the small blind of $0.50UGADawg posts the big blind of $15 seconds left to actThe button is in seat #4*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to Wingmaster05 [Qs Qd]bbdole foldsCURAISE1000 foldsdoug528 raises to $2Wingmaster05 raises to $3fstfwd calls $3corvettecat foldspoker482001 foldsUGADawg foldsdoug528 calls $1*** FLOP *** [7s 8s 7c]doug528 bets $1Wingmaster05 raises to $2fstfwd calls $2doug528 raises to $3Wingmaster05 raises to $4fstfwd foldsdoug528 calls $1*** TURN *** [7s 8s 7c] [Th]doug528 bets $2Wingmaster05 calls $2*** RIVER *** [7s 8s 7c Th] [9c]doug528 bets $2Wingmaster05 calls $2I should fold this river?
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#2 Wingmaster05

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Posted 24 November 2005 - 06:11 PM

ok im going to go try the hand coverter again...i could never get it to work.
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Posted 24 November 2005 - 06:15 PM

Awful river but I think its more likely that you were behind before the river then anything else. I'm calling it just cause its worth seeing a showdown with QQ getting 10:1 heads up.Really folding the turn here would not be bad with a read, without one you're stuck calling down.

#4 Wingmaster05

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Posted 24 November 2005 - 06:23 PM

Yeah if i call the turn i'm saying that i dont believe it, although the river gives it to 99 and JJ. As you saw i called because when in doubt in low limit holdem, I usually call.
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#5 DCWildcat

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Posted 24 November 2005 - 08:38 PM

At first, I wanted to advocate a call getting > 10 to 1, but...77-JJ all have you beat on the river, you're very rarely against QQ, and KK and AA already have you beat. I can't think of one single hand villain plays that you beat now. I have to fold.

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Posted 25 November 2005 - 12:04 PM

DCWildcat said:

At first, I wanted to advocate a call getting > 10 to 1, but...77-JJ all have you beat on the river, you're very rarely against QQ, and KK and AA already have you beat. I can't think of one single hand villain plays that you beat now. I have to fold.
You're getting 13:1 on the river. I'd expect to win at least that much. You may be up against a strangely played T9, A8, or desperate bluff. Villian may be a maniac. Call.




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