jojopiff 0 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 I dont know how to use the hand converter so I just copied and pasted? I am rather new to limit, been playing mostly no limit so please go easy. I had only played about one revolution or so. I don't know if I was too aggressive on the flop and if I should bet the river.$1/$2 hold 'em, nine-handedPreflop: Hero is button with Q J . MP2 posts to play.3 folds, SB completes, BB checks.Flop: (5 SB)SB bets, SB calls.Turn: (11 BB)SB bets, SB calls, MP2 calls, CO calls.River: (15 BB)SB checks, MP2 checks, CO checks, Hero checks.. Link to post Share on other sites
akishore 0 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 ok, good you took out results.aseem Link to post Share on other sites
DrZebra 0 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 indeed Link to post Share on other sites
DrZebra 0 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 ditto Link to post Share on other sites
jojopiff 0 Posted November 22, 2005 Author Share Posted November 22, 2005 you really should manually convert and ask what you want to ask and not post results. i can't read that garbage.Could you tell me where it is at or give a link? Link to post Share on other sites
akishore 0 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 jojopiff, copy and paste this into your original post.(click quote at the top right of this post, copy the whole thing, then click back on your browser, then edit at the top right of your first post, replace the hand with the paste and submit.)$1/$2 hold 'em, nine-handedPreflop: Hero is button with Q J . MP2 posts to play.3 folds, SB completes, BB checks.Flop: (5 SB)SB bets, SB calls.Turn: (11 BB)SB bets, SB calls, MP2 calls, CO calls.River: (19 BB)SB checks, MP2 checks, CO checks, Hero checks. Link to post Share on other sites
akishore 0 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 you should be raising this preflop. you have the best position on the table with a hand that does well in the multiway pot that will most likely exist. exploit your position by raising.you can also value bet the river. don't be scared, people don't always have the flush. and if they do, big deal, you lose a couple of bets. don't play scared poker.aseem Link to post Share on other sites
jojopiff 0 Posted November 22, 2005 Author Share Posted November 22, 2005 you should be raising this preflop. you have the best position on the table with a hand that does well in the multiway pot that will most likely exist. exploit your position by raising.you can also value bet the river. don't be scared, people don't always have the flush. and if they do, big deal, you lose a couple of bets. don't play scared poker.aseemThank you for the help with the converter. Should I be jamming this flop? Link to post Share on other sites
pokerplayer24 0 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 Raise preflop.I'm jamming the flop as well. On the flop pairs, 2 pairs sets, straight draws and flush draws are all sticking around, which isn't happening if a scare turn card comes.Turn is fine.Bet the river. If someone bets I understand you just calling it but please bet this river once its been checked to you. Link to post Share on other sites
akishore 0 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 you should be raising this preflop. you have the best position on the table with a hand that does well in the multiway pot that will most likely exist. exploit your position by raising.you can also value bet the river. don't be scared, people don't always have the flush. and if they do, big deal, you lose a couple of bets. don't play scared poker.aseemThank you for the help with the converter. Should I be jamming this flop?why wouldn't you?aseem Link to post Share on other sites
royal_elliott 0 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 why wouldn't you?Doesnt get much better when you're holding the nuts and theres a bet and raise in front of you. :-) Link to post Share on other sites
royal_elliott 0 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 why wouldn't you?Doesnt get much better when you're holding the nuts and theres a bet and raise in front of you. :-) Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 First of all this is in the entirely wrong forum.Up here we deal with $2/4 and higher.Trying to apply that higher level game strategy to $1/2 is outrageous.Fortuneately, I recently played $1/2 and will do my best.1. Raise this preflop 100% of the time, for Value against these weak-ass limpies2. Flop was terrific. Flush draws must pay the max. And gut shots to splits (Qx) as well. Sets..etc.... 3. Turn. Perfect4. River: Bet/Call. Maybe someone is waiting in the wings with a Flush and you lose two bets; more often a worse str8, two pair, scared set, A9, calls..3x. It's close but againt 3, I want to bet for value. Remember, if you've lost the pot, you've lost whether you bet or not..so we're just talking about losing 2 or wining 1-3. The looser/passive they are, the more you bet the riverthanks for converting, you did a nice job!Except the pot on the river is 19 BB's.Even more reason to Bet/Call. Why? Because your opponents are likely to call with just about any hand given this pot size.******* read replies *********cool. we agree.For all of us who have/had trouble value betting. To me it is/was a partly psycological. As if betting and getting raised or not, but losing, cost me the whole pot. As if I woulda won the pot otherwise. Weird. When in actuality, against some opponents, they may actually fold the best hand when I bet ( I have AQ, they fold K4 bottom pair in a 9 BB pot because they never hit their kicker) ..carry on. Link to post Share on other sites
akishore 0 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 thanks for converting, you did a nice job!i converted it, jerk!Except the pot on the river is 19 BB's.er... no i didn't...aseem Link to post Share on other sites
pokerplayer24 0 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 First of all this is in the entirely wrong forum.Up here we deal with $2/4 and higher.Trying to apply that higher level game strategy to $1/2 is outrageous.Fortuneately, I recently played $1/2 and will do my best. As in within the past 2 hours ? :roll:And 1/2 is really pretty similar to 2/4 and 3/6 thought I guess we can't have the forums split into everything 3/6 down and 5/10 up. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 you took me seriously?No, wait, I fell for it.You were joking, too.ok. coolFor a minute there I was worried. Link to post Share on other sites
dreamcaster 0 Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Raise pre-flop.Rest looks fine.Reads Responses...Yeah, it looks like I'm a river wimp.Value betting on the river is a leak of mine. I'm doing it most of the time but am freezing up on scary river cards or when facing aggressive with a good but not nut hand.Back to SSHE I go. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 in all honesty, with 4 others seeing this flop, and the aggression on the flop and subsequent relative passivity on the turn..I too check this river.It completes and OESD and the FD.I don't think we get paid off often enough to make up for the times a twicky villan is looking to c/r. (CO is my guess)Maybe being later, I'm tired. But this is my new stance.convince me and I may change back.Edit: ok..most of the time they will bet out, afraid of the check thru... but with so many left to call the CO can get greedy and envision 6 bets here.... it's tough for me. Link to post Share on other sites
TheCinciKid 0 Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 in all honesty, with 4 others seeing this flop, and the aggression on the flop and subsequent relative passivity on the turn..I too check this river.It completes and OESD and the FD.I don't think we get paid off often enough to make up for the times a twicky villan is looking to c/r. (CO is my guess)Maybe being later, I'm tired. But this is my new stance.convince me and I may change back.Edit: ok..most of the time they will bet out, afraid of the check thru... but with so many left to call the CO can get greedy and envision 6 bets here.... it's tough for me.We can beat the OESD that it completes. The only thing we're really afraid of is the flush here. I too am very tempted to wuss out on this river, but I think Sklansky, Miller, et. al. would tell us to value-bet. I'd say the line is probably bet/call. I think reads could also be very helpful in a situation like this. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 We can beat the OESD that it completes. :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: Bet/Call. Link to post Share on other sites
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