Actuary 3 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 assume all villans are around 45/3/1the gasmes were typical, 3-4 to the flop with a raise every 5-7 hands, usually me.Yay or Nay on the River value bets please.This is a part of my game I"m really working on at 6 Max.Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cxPreflop: Value_Bettor is BB with 5:club:, 9:heart:. UTG calls, 1 fold, Button calls, SB completes, Value_Bettor checks.Flop: (4 SB) 6:club:, 2:club:, 9:diamond: (4 players)SB checks, Value_Bettor bets, UTG folds, Button calls, SB calls.Turn: (3.50 BB) 7:club: (3 players)SB checks, Value_Bettor bets, Button calls, SB calls.River: (6.50 BB) 6:heart: (3 players)SB checks, Value_Bettor bets......**************************************************Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cxPreflop: Value_Bettor is Button with K:diamond:, K:club:. 1 fold, SB calls, BB calls, MP calls.Flop: (8 SB) 3:diamond:, 4:club:, 6:club: (4 players)SB bets, SB calls, BB calls.Turn: (7 BB) J:diamond: (3 players)SB checks, BB checks, Value_Bettor bets, SB calls, BB folds.River: (9 BB) 6:diamond: (2 players)SB checks, Value_Bettor bets...******************************Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cxPreflop: Value_Bettor is MP with K:heart:, J:club:. 1 fold, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls.Flop: (8 SB) 8:heart:, K:diamond:, A:diamond: (4 players)SB checks, BB checks, Value_Bettor bets, Button calls, SB folds, BB folds.Turn: (5 BB) Q:club: (2 players)Value_Bettor bets, Button calls.River: (7 BB) 9:diamond: (2 players)Value_Bettor bets.....**********thanks!River play only, really..unless something stands out. Link to post Share on other sites
screech 0 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 Value_Bettor bets......What else would he do?Hand 1:River card blows. Still, your opponents could have a wide range of hands here from ace to 87 to a flush draw to trip sixes. I think you have a value bet here. Especially if these opponents are prone to calling with ace high on the river.Hand 2:Wow. Sixes again. Opponents never make trip 6's. Value bet.Hand 3:This is closer. If a river raise means you're beat, go ahead and bet/fold. If not, I think a check/call is in order. Link to post Share on other sites
akishore 0 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 yeah, i'd bet each one.aseem Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted November 22, 2005 Author Share Posted November 22, 2005 seriously, I'm ashamed to say, all of these are checks for me in the not to distant past. If nothing else, 6 Max had taught me to keep betting 'cause they like calling. Link to post Share on other sites
akishore 0 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 seriously, I'm ashamed to say, all of these are checks for me in the not to distant past. If nothing else, 6 Max had taught me to keep betting 'cause they like calling.yeah, you better be ashamed.just kidding.it's good that you found a leak.hey, earlier today i value bet 44 on a board of 2 3 9 6 9 against two opponents. my hand was so good bay-bee.i also remember one particular opponent over the summer against whom i repeatedly value bet ace-high (AQ unimproved, for example), and it was the best hand each time.good times.aseem Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted November 22, 2005 Author Share Posted November 22, 2005 hey, earlier today i value bet 44 on a board of 2 3 9 6 9 against two opponents. my hand was so good bay-bee.good times.aseemthat's why I call (you) down with K6 on a K high board.you think your J's are good. Link to post Share on other sites
pokerplayer24 0 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 I really think hand 1 is a questionable bet. I'm guessing its a bet/fold. At this level I suppose 2x and 78 are paying you off but aren't you going to run into 9 better kicker pretty often here?hand 2 and 3 I like the bets as long as hand 2 is a bet/call and hand 3 is a bet/fold. Link to post Share on other sites
Canada 0 Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Hand 1: I can't find a bet here against 2 opponents with that weak a kicker. Check and call 1 back.Hand 2: bet alwaysHand 3: I prefer check/call. You'll get more value from desperation bluffs than callers Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted November 23, 2005 Author Share Posted November 23, 2005 Hand 1: 78 calls. SB, I think (good job Pokerplayer and Screech, again).I was bet/folding here. The villans were straight forward/passiveHand 2: 77 calls. Makes sense. This is the typical hand I would always check behind on. I tend to limit my opponents holdings way too muchI was calling a raise here (not happily though)Hand 3: KT callsThis was read dependent. With no flop bet/raise I did not put him on an Ace. I could see c/c being better. In Full Ring for sure. Here a raise would be a bluff enough times to make calling profitable. But checking also induces plenty of bets. Given the propensity to call with any hand, I gave him a chance to. He was not particularly laggy. Link to post Share on other sites
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