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[shamhawks]

I never buy into this stuff, but the last 2 days on partypoker is some of the craziest poker i have ever seen in my like. I have a little room to talk as i've been with them for 5 years.Yesterday their servers went down for about 45 min and after they came back up...play has been crazy...I'm not going to try and come off like i'm good or nothing, but I very rarely have losing sessions...now just look at some of these numbers and tell me if you just think it's a crazy coincidence.all based on about 7 hours of single table play: approx: 450-600 handsCAsh games:Pocket aces 22 times (3 times back to back)Quads 4 timesKings 20 times (guess)now that is either ace or kings like every 12-15 hands what's the normal like every 288 handssng: this is seperate from my live game numbers one sng had kings 6 times, twice back to back...had aces 4 times...doesn't have to be said that i won this sng easily)I'm losing everyway possible in the cash games the last 2 days...making up for it in the sng's with all the big cards...can make them pay unlike in the lower limit cash games.Anyway, it's probably just one of those crazy things, but I don't think i could play in a live casino for the rest of my life and ever see anything close to these type of numbers...( I would have poker players waiting for me out in the parking lot with bats, as i must be cheating )right or wrong, it's nice to have a forum to get this stuff off your chest, and go back to the tables somewhat fresh.

[Vade]

Congrats!I'm sure it was still completely random, and hopefully you maximized your cash

[wrto4556]

Poker's funny. It's hard to really grasp what random means...well, no it's not. But I bet you know what I'm saying.

[shamhawks]

ok...i think i need to swear off cash games for a week and just play tourney's...with the cards I'm getting, I could mop up....my first 2 day losing session in a long time...I'm down about 120 bb ( I know... should have walked away sooner) good news is that in 3 sng's i made about half back.here is the latest that happened a few min ago...I have about 40 of these suck outs over the last 2 days.#Game No : 1567563036 ***** Hand History for Game 1567563036 *****$0.5/$1 Hold'em - Wednesday, February 09, 23:34:23 EDT 2005Table Table 15390 (Real Money)Seat 6 is the buttonTotal number of players : 10 Seat 1: NutNoPairs82 ( $19 )Seat 2: codenametoad ( $39.75 )Seat 3: thetruth1234 ( $12.5 )Seat 5: dukey07 ( $24 )Seat 6: dongu2007 ( $35.75 )Seat 7: mhykee ( $34.75 )Seat 8: BadAssKiller ( $33.75 )Seat 9: aaronsegar ( $17.25 )Seat 10: jpsan ( $25 )Seat 4: shamhawks ( $24.5 )mhykee posts small blind [$0.25].BadAssKiller posts big blind [$0.5].** Dealing down cards **Dealt to shamhawks [ Kh Kd ]aaronsegar calls [$0.5].jpsan folds.NutNoPairs82 folds.codenametoad folds.thetruth1234 folds.shamhawks raises [$1].dukey07 folds.dongu2007 folds.mhykee calls [$0.75].BadAssKiller folds.aaronsegar calls [$0.5].** Dealing Flop ** [ 7c, 3h, Qd ]mhykee checks.aaronsegar checks.shamhawks bets [$0.5].mhykee calls [$0.5].aaronsegar calls [$0.5].** Dealing Turn ** [ Jc ]mhykee checks.aaronsegar checks.shamhawks bets [$1].mhykee folds.aaronsegar calls [$1].** Dealing River ** [ 3c ]aaronsegar checks.shamhawks checks.aaronsegar shows [ Tc, Kc ] a flush, king high.shamhawks doesn't show [ Kh, Kd ] two pairs, kings and threes.aaronsegar wins $6.5 from the main pot with a flusnow I think i played this one good...maybe a check raise on the rainbow flop, but lately do not want anyone to have a free card....I'm getting smarter on this one though...guy tried to trap me on the river and i just checked...knew he hit flush no doubt about it :cry: I know this is low limit but how do you call this...no great draws on the flop for him....I know everyone says that all low limit is like this, but i have still won 95% of the time....things are a changing....better put my bankroll to good use and move up to at least $2/4

[DiverDown4]

Well, youre going to win this hand more than most of the time, think long term. Secondly, bet the river anyway, for value, the chances of him catching runner runner sucks, and by you checking, youre losing bets you shouldn't have, why let him see that for free, just because he won that hand, doesnt mean you shouldnt have bet it. bet the river, for value, most times he wont have that hand.

[shamhawks]

I totally agree with you, but i throw odds out the window when i'm on this kind of run...like i said no doubt in my mind he had the flush...

[DiverDown4]

shamhawks said:

I totally agree with you, but i throw odds out the window when i'm on this kind of run...like i said no doubt in my mind he had the flush...

Its not about doubt, its about math........youre going to miss bets that you would have won, and saying that you should move up to 2-4 to "avoid" these bad beats is wrong. If you cant crush low limts, higher limits will kill you. Trust me on this one.

[shamhawks]

well...guess you have not read my post very well, or previous posts. I know exactly what you are saying, and I would probably say the same thing, but we are not robots. when you are on a bad run,math or no math you have to laydown. Soon as this little downturn ends, I will be back to doing the right thing 95% of the time...you still do play against people and know when you are beat.And trust me on this!!!! I have been crushing this limit and higher for 5 years (online) and have been playing hold' em for 15 years...like i said my first 2 day losing session since i can remember. So I need a change whether it be $2/4 $4/8 live or tourney's for awhile. I have pretty much lived off poker for the last few years, especially this last year to pay for my real estate career One reason I play lower limits is not because I lose, but for one I'm frugal and don't like to change something that works for me and I play tournaments a majority of the time.I like this forum, but I'm going to go back to being a lurker, as I never get my message accross anyway....see you at the wsop...I 'm going to play 2 small events and see if I can win myself into the main event....not too bad for this low limit rookie.Take care

[DiverDown4]

I think you missed my point, playing differently or "knowing someone hit the flush" and thus checking your kings on the river because youre on a bad run is just a bad play, and moving up limits because you think its going to help is just a bad move. if you think im wrong, thats fine, im not trying to start another brawl here. good luck at the tables.

[AceOfSpaiDs]

poker is weird man, what really is random....heh

[Alcatraz]

A few years ago I walked into a casino to play poker with 300 bucks in my pocket. I walked out about 10 hours later with over 12 grand (about 1500 of it from winning a 15 dollar buy in tournament)I'm just that good. Ok, not really. But for that one golden day, I simply could not miss. The cards just ran me over. Started at a 15/30 table, won a few hundred. Then won a tournament. Then won at 20/40. When the game broke, I moved to 40/80 and kept right on winning. The table voted to change up to 50/100 and although I'd never played those stakes before I was so far up that I was fearless and the rush didn't stop.I'll never see another day like that one. The casino wasn't cheating, the cards just ran that way that day.

[justblaze]

xzanos said:

Maybe you were getting al lthe hands i should have had in the multitable tourney i played.....around 220 hands and no aces or kings. still managed 23rd out of 789 though...

you realize this statistically insignificant? statistiscally you should get AA 1 out of 221 hands. so you havent even played enough hands that would make it PROBABLE that you would get aces. it would be more remarkable if you HAD gotten aces.

[KidKanuck]

shamhawks said:

I never buy into this stuff, but the last 2 days on partypoker is some of the craziest poker i have ever seen in my like. I have a little room to talk as i've been with them for 5 years.Yesterday their servers went down for about 45 min and after they came back up...play has been crazy...I'm not going to try and come off like i'm good or nothing, but I very rarely have losing sessions...now just look at some of these numbers and tell me if you just think it's a crazy coincidence.all based on about 7 hours of single table play: approx: 450-600 handsCAsh games:Pocket aces 22 times (3 times back to back)Quads 4 timesKings 20 times (guess)now that is either ace or kings like every 12-15 hands what's the normal like every 288 handssng: this is seperate from my live game numbers one sng had kings 6 times, twice back to back...had aces 4 times...doesn't have to be said that i won this sng easily)I'm losing everyway possible in the cash games the last 2 days...making up for it in the sng's with all the big cards...can make them pay unlike in the lower limit cash games.Anyway, it's probably just one of those crazy things, but I don't think i could play in a live casino for the rest of my life and ever see anything close to these type of numbers...( I would have poker players waiting for me out in the parking lot with bats, as i must be cheating )right or wrong, it's nice to have a forum to get this stuff off your chest, and go back to the tables somewhat fresh.

that is unbelieveable :!: ...i had a rush of cards like that right after the servers went down too...I was playing .50/1 and i only played 120 hands....but I was dealt AA 5 times....KK 6 times....QQ 8 times...AK 6 times(5 times sooooted).....and JJ 4 times(I know JJ or QQ aren't that big of hands at .5/1....but I mention them 'cause they held up EVERY time)...I also was dealt 8 small pocket pairs and they flopped a set 6 times....the thing that was most amazing out of the hands mentioned...only 5 didn't hold up some way or another.In about 120 hands I won 208.15.I can tell you a one legged blind mole could have played my rush and made a profit...'cause my game is about as good.straight to the 4K/8K game....I'M ON A ROLL!!!!KK

[foteeninches]

sham says hes been playin five years and has never had back to back losing sessions. i dont believe that for a second.

[A3DDFAN]

foteeninches said:

sham says hes been playin five years and has never had back to back losing sessions.  i dont believe that for a second.

never.......??????????????i dunno????????????????

[ArseneLupin3]

shamhawks said:

all based on about 7 hours of single table play: approx: 450-600 handsCAsh games:Pocket aces 22 times (3 times back to back)Quads 4 timesKings 20 times (guess)

Did you get these cards or were they dealt to anyone at the table?If it's the former, I don't believe you.If it's the latter, it's not that amazing of a run.

[Breathe_Deep]

[/quote]Did you get these cards or were they dealt to anyone at the table?If it's the former, I don't believe you.If it's the latter, it's not that amazing of a run.[/quote]If you play a lot of poker, youve seen runs like this before. So I'm not really sure what's not to believe. I've been dealt pocket aces back to back several times. Ive cashed in every SNG I've played in an entire 16 hour session. I've won 25x the buy-in in a NL cash game in 12 hours. I've lost to completely horrible players for two weeks straight and in that time taken seemingly nearly every possible bad beat scenario. What many people can't seem to grip is that these numbers are more or less meaningless as numbers go. There are only 221 possible hands in holdem. The odds are the same every time. Unless you have a computer for a brain you cannot keep track of these things in your head as you would need to remember thousands and thousands of hands to see if the numbers are realistic. Once and for all, can we please, please get off the "rigged" kick. The major, reputable poker sites aren't rigged. The casinos aren't rigged. Seemingly crazy things will happen, but the possibilities in poker aren't limitless. I will never cease to be amazed at the way people's minds formulate patterns and make meaning where there is none. I don't want to get psychological here, but this is what we do ever since we are born. We try to distinguish patters and make meaning out of a seemingly random and meaningless world. In the case of poker and statistical variances, it doesn't mean anything if you get pocket aces ten times in a row. The chance is still 1:220 each time.