jj against loose opponents (1/2)

[thecamelot 0]

Turn check OK or do i still bet?Don't think I can overcall on the river against even loose opponents..Ack, running a bit bad right now so going to post a few annoying hands.Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cxPreflop: thecamelot is Button with J:heart:, J:diamond:. UTG calls, 1 fold, BB calls, UTG calls, MP1 calls.Flop: (8.50 SB) A:club:, 6:diamond:, 3:heart: (4 players)BB bets, BB calls, UTG calls.Turn: (7.25 BB) 4:club: (3 players)BB checks, UTG checks, thecamelot checks.River: (7.25 BB) Q:spade: (3 players)BB bets, UTG calls, thecamelot ...?

[Guest Zach6668]

If the stupid form didn't delete my JJ post, I could have helped you Personally, if you are going to raise that flop, I think you need to bet when a non-scare card comes on the turn. I'd like to see other replies to that though, because I'm not 100% sure.I think you are beat on this river. He probably has a weak ace and your check told him he was good. Of course, he's most likely calling down to your betting anyways, so who knows.This is why I'm lost in LHE now...I start trying to improve, and it gets harder and harder...Zach

[Actuary 3]

has BB shown a tendency to bet with less than TP against a pfr'er ?you're not folding any hands on the flop with a raise, bad relative pos.So you must be rasing for vlaue and/or fold equity.Unless you're worried 2,5 or 7,5 is going to c/r on the turn, why the hell do you check? I mean, you raised the flop right? Or were you trying for a free card play to draw to your set of Jacks ?Now at the river, were you trying to induce a bluff from BB? Is that why you checked the turn?Easy easy river fold.at least one of them has a weak Ace more than 90% of the time.this sucked.and stop running bad.

[thecamelot 0]

I think you are beat on this river. He probably has a weak ace and your check told him he was good. Of course, he's most likely calling down to your betting anyways, so who knows.

My thought as well... At least one of them has an ace, if not both, enough of the time...

[thecamelot 0]

has BB shown a tendency to bet with less than TP against a pfr'er ?

you're not folding any hands on the flop with a raise, bad relative pos.So you must be rasing for vlaue and/or fold equity.

Was hoping for a fold.. I can't fold JJ every time an ace flops, is calling better? Also for a free card but not as much...

Unless you're worried 2,5 or 7,5 is going to c/r on the turn, why the hell do you check? I mean, you raised the flop right? Or were you trying for a free card play to draw to your set of Jacks ?

Yeah, the turn check was weak. Is it a bet/fold situation? I can't like my hand much after getting c/r'ed on the turn. If I bet, and either call, I'm checking behind on the river (if allowed to) - is that weak? If they bet the river... I'm lost, heads up I might call, 2 players I think I have to fold.

and stop running bad.

Thx... I'll do that ha

[Actuary 3]

a big part of me wants to f0ld this flop and not over call.Edit: I may peel one card on this otherwise safe bord, and call 1 person dwon, but not 2 on the turn. w/o a readHU is different.I hate Ace on flop with TT-KK; especially against 3 opponents.

[Guest Zach6668]

a big part of me wants to f0ld this flop and not over call.Edit: I may peel one card on this otherwise safe bord, and call 1 person dwon, but not 2 on the turn. w/o a readHU is different.I hate Ace on flop with TT-KK; especially against 3 opponents.

Donks play Ace-anything.... I would fear the ace here more than a flop including a K AND a Q...Well...maybe not, but A-rag is donk gold...