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[Hobbes]

4 players left in a sit n go. I'm 2nd in chips, player to my right is the short stack, but still big enough to hurt a little. Pays top 7, so we're already in the money. Sorry I don't have more specific info.I have recently been playing very aggressive and betting a lot of flops and scooping most of the pots.I'm BB, villain is SB, battle of the blinds situation. He completes and I check with QTo. Flop is ATx, rainbow. Villain checks, I bet about half the pot, he min-raises. I don't think he has an Ace because I think he would've raised pre-flop. I do think he is tired of me betting every flop and decides to represent the Ace by raising me, but isn't interesting in committing his whole stack. So I re-raise all-in and he quickly calls and shows A6.River is a Queen and I suck out. He says, "Nice catch fish." Also says things like "happens all the time here."Was that a fishy play? If I had lost my M would've been in the 6-7 range (so I guess effective M half that? I need to read HOH again).

[shpaget]

It's only fishy if you make the call knowing he has the Ace.I'd even call his call a little fishy, depending on why he made the call...did he put you on nothing, or did he put you on Ace, weaker kicker than 6?In the end, with his limp and minraise, he didn't give you much reason to think you were behind, and in that respect, his trap worked...the fact that you fell for the trap, and then sucked out doesn't make you a fish.It's an inherent risk in trapping in poker...if you can't deal with that, don't trap, or quit.Many times any ace will lead preflop in this situation, because any ace is leading a random hand - but it is common to see some Aces, especially weak aces, limp in this situation because, as you now know, when an Ace hits the board nobody puts them on it.Has he bluffed in the past - what did a minraise mean to him in the past - a trap or weakness?Your raise is fine...you've represented the ace, and are representing it again...if you're behind, you still have five outs, and your tourney life isn't on the line, but you also have some fold equity - there are a lot of players who would have folded their A6 to that board, even to a LAG.

[Hobbes]

Thanks for the thoughtful reply.He had a weird betting pattern. He was either underbetting or overbetting the pot consistently, but he was mixing it up, so I didn't really have a read on it. He hadn't shown any bluffs, but he had played back a few times and won without showing, so I figured he was capable.

[BrantC]

To me his betting was very weak. He didn't give you any indication that your pair wasn't good. I agree with your bet and even though he flipped over his A-6o, you still had outs and you werent down and out for the tourney. Not a fish at all. As so many people say.... that's poker! Good luck

[thebolb33]

Its kind of hard to tell if the play was fishy without chip stacks and the size of the blinds/bets.Prior history vs. this opponent would dictate how I went about playing this hand and stack size.

[Hobbes]

thebolb33 said:

Its kind of hard to tell if the play was fishy without chip stacks and the size of the blinds/bets.Prior history vs. this opponent would dictate how I went about playing this hand and stack size.

I gave my M and a rough estimate of the villain's short stack (i.e. "that it would still hurt a little). Sorry I couldn't give more exact numbers, but I think that should be sufficient for the kind of response I was looking for.I didn't have a long history with this opponent, but I stated what I knew about him in my reply above, namely that I didn't have a read on his betting yet and felt he was capable of bluffing. I actually think my play seemed more relevant in this case because it presented a situation where he was more likely to play back at me with nothing.

[copernicus]

I would have responded "You laid out the bait, and landed a whale"He is the fish in this hand.

[loogie]

copernicus said:

I would have responded "You laid out the bait, and landed a whale"

Consider this line stolen.