scottyno 0 Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 discussPokerStars 1/2 Hold'em (6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cxPreflop: Hero is SB with 5:spade:, 4:spade:. 2 folds, CO calls, Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks.Flop: (4 SB) 5:heart:, 4:club:, J:club: (4 players)Hero bets, CO folds, Button calls, Hero calls.Turn: (5 BB) T:spade: (3 players)Hero checks, BB bets, Button calls, Hero calls.River: (8 BB) 7:club: (3 players)Hero checks, BB bets, Button calls, Hero calls.Final Pot: 11 BB Link to post Share on other sites
pokerplayer24 0 Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 well ok guess you did it now Link to post Share on other sites
pokerplayer24 0 Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 As far as this hand goes i'm 3 betting this flop then leading the turn. The flop is really draw heavy and its fairly unlikely that you were outflopped here. 3 bet the flop if capped i'd just call down against all but the most aggressive players.So yea you played it to passively. Link to post Share on other sites
psujohn 0 Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 With the flush draw out there the last thing I want to do is call this down. I 3-bet the flop and see how villain reacts. If he calls lead the turn. If he caps ... I guess I reluctantly call down. He's likely raising the flop with top pair - though I've seen donks do this with a flush draw too. Push hard now when we're likely ahead. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 c/r the turn Link to post Share on other sites
TheCinciKid 0 Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 Haven't read replies...I'd say 3-bet the flop, lead the turn. The bettor in this hand probably has top pair. Link to post Share on other sites
screech 0 Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 I would pull the ole stop n go. Link to post Share on other sites
pokerplayer24 0 Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 Whoever said checkraise the turn i'm not an overly big fan of it. For starters if this gets checked through its pretty terrible for us on such a draw heavy board. Not to mention checkraising the turn if we get 3 bet are we folding? Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 Whoever said checkraise the turn i'm not an overly big fan of it. For starters if this gets checked through its pretty terrible for us on such a draw heavy board. Not to mention checkraising the turn if we get 3 bet are we folding?it was me.In this small pot, I"m not as worried about the draws.I'm just thinking of how we make the pot bigger with one card to come.Yes I call a 3-bet.I don't feel great about my ideas here. Link to post Share on other sites
pokerplayer24 0 Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 Like I don't know, you could easily be correct here and I'm wrong.Just with bottom 2 I always feel that its best to get the most money in on the flop as possible since as the hand goes on unless we boat up the strength of our hand decreases. Link to post Share on other sites
akishore 0 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 three-bet the flop, lead the turn, bay-bee!aseem Link to post Share on other sites
screech 0 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 three-bet the flop, lead the turn, bay-bee!aseemYeah, I like this more. Only 2 opponents, not too many bad cards can come, huge equity now. Get your bets in early when you know you're ahead. Link to post Share on other sites
Abbaddabba 0 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 3bet the flop and lead the turn.can you imagine how horrible it would be if they checked behind on the turn? a stop 'n go is better than trying to check/raise the turn, though it disgusts me for all other reasons. do you do this if a flush card hits though, and fold to a raise? you clearly do it if a non-flush non-board pairing card comes (and i assume if the J pairs, you check/fold) Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 horrible advice earlier by Actuary.Bottom two pair is very vulnerable, even on a rainbow flop3-bet and lead turn.He's been running so good lately, he forgets how to protect his vulnerble hands.ps. how good? 7.9 BB/100 over 3300 hands at 6 Max. About to go to $1/2 6 max! Link to post Share on other sites
CoranMoran 0 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 Preflop: Hero is SB with 5, 4. 2 folds, CO calls, Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks. Flop: (4 SB) 5, 4, J (4 players) Hero bets, BB raises, CO folds, Button calls, Hero calls.I don't understand the call.What is the reason for not 3 betting?There must be a reason... I'd like to know what it is?Turn: (5 BB) T (3 players) Hero checks, BB bets, Button calls, Hero calls.I really don't understand this passive check-call.Are you hoping for a cheap showdown?Why are you playing this hand if you aren't willing to push when you hit?--cnm Link to post Share on other sites
TheCinciKid 0 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 I just want to point out that both Screech and Akishore agreed with me on this hand. Maybe I don't suck after all. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 I just want to point out that both Screech and Akishore agreed with me on this hand. Maybe I don't suck after all. Your bankroll disagrees.ouch! Link to post Share on other sites
akishore 0 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 I just want to point out that both Screech and Akishore agreed with me on this hand. Maybe I don't suck after all. Your bankroll disagrees.ouch!zing mother ******!!nh, gg, wp actuary.aseem Link to post Share on other sites
kcb 0 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 cap flop, lead turn. Link to post Share on other sites
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