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#1 screech

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Posted 17 November 2005 - 06:49 PM

Both villians are 20/12/1.7 typesParty Poker 5/10 Hold'em (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cxPreflop: Hero is SB with J:spade:, J:club:. UTG raises, UTG calls.Flop: (10 SB) 5:heart:, K:spade:, 4:heart: (3 players)Hero bets, Hero folds, UTG calls.How's the pf call?What about the flop bet?

#2 DCWildcat

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Posted 17 November 2005 - 06:50 PM

's fine. I likee.

#3 DCWildcat

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Posted 17 November 2005 - 06:53 PM

I'll be a little more substantial. A PF call disguises your hand well to let you pounce on any trashy flop, and save an SB when something scary comes down. More importantly, it also cuts down on the odds your opponents will get on the flop, since a cap will let them chase virtually any draw correctly.I like the flop bet since the flop is sort of raggety, and it doesn't let you get bumped off by something like AQ. Easy fold after the 3-bet. NH.

#4 Pancake407

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Posted 18 November 2005 - 10:53 AM

played perfectly.

#5 MrNiceGuy

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Posted 18 November 2005 - 01:51 PM

I'm pretty sure the preflop call is good.I'm not sure about the flop bet; are you folding to a raise? If you get called, are you leading the turn? Will the flop bet win you the pot outright 1/10 times? I doubt it....How about checking the flop, and folding if UTG bets, but check-raising if MP3 bets? Then you can fold to a 3-bet, or bet/fold the turn if you get called. It's more expensive than betting out, but it certainly makes it look more like you have AK, so you should be able to get QQ/JJ/TT to fold more easily.

#6 Steppin Razor

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Posted 18 November 2005 - 02:43 PM

screech said:

Both villians are 20/12/1.7 types
This means tightish and only somewhat aggressive, right? Sorry, I haven't learned pokertrackerspeak.PF, MP1's 3 bet could be an isolation raise, which would mean calling is okay. Betting on the flop is okay too, to find out where you stand.

#7 DrZebra

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Posted 18 November 2005 - 02:53 PM

Did you consider iso-capping preflop?

#8 justblaze

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Posted 18 November 2005 - 03:09 PM

DrZebra said:

Did you consider iso-capping preflop?
hand that will have to fold to many flops, gonna be OOP to at least 1 villain, could be very far behind, tough to find a reason to cap. flop line is fine.




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