plo8: stuck in a duel

[InertGrudge 0]

Figured since I see dank on bodog so much, I would finally get to posting a hand or two. This hand is from this morning's session. Note that these two players (Villian1 and Villian2) have been going at each other for about 30 minutes. Any time Villian1 raises, Villian2 will call no matter what he has. Villian1 is playing extremely LAG, raising with just about any hand involving a decent low. He's also real bad post-flop.Bodog .1/.25 Pot Limit Omaha 8/better [$25 max]Hero ($31.16)Villian1 ($17.16)Villian2 ($37.19)Dealt to Hero (UTG+1): 2 A A 9 Hero raises to .85Didn't think my preflop raise from that position was bad, but now what?

[Wintermute 0]

I'd raise the max. You have an opportunity to get > 1/3 of your stack in w/ AA2, I'd take it.

[dank773 0]

I'd jam it as well. One of the few things I agree with Smash about is that raising is only useful preflop to get position or if you can get a good % of your stack in the pot.

[Chamonyx 0]

1. Re-potting here is absolutely the standard play, and no one should criticize you for it. 2. However, given your reads of the other 2 players, there is an alternative: You could flat call here, check the flop, let V1 pot it, V2 call and THEN get all-in. This might be better if there is a chance that V2 would have respect for your re-raise on the flop and fold, and if you are pretty sure V1 will bet out on just about any flop.Let's assume your pre-flop equity is 60% against either one of them and 40% against both, then this translates to EV of 37.72x0.6= 22.63 or 51.48x.4 + 28x.6 = 37.36. This also lets you make a save in the case of a "horrible" flop.

[howdyo 0]

1. Re-potting here is absolutely the standard play, and no one should criticize you for it. 2. However, given your reads of the other 2 players, there is an alternative: You could flat call here, check the flop, let V1 pot it, V2 call and THEN get all-in. This might be better if there is a chance that V2 would have respect for your re-raise on the flop and fold, and if you are pretty sure V1 will bet out on just about any flop.Let's assume your pre-flop equity is 60% against either one of them and 40% against both, then this translates to EV of 37.72x0.6= 22.63 or 51.48x.4 + 28x.6 = 37.36. This also lets you make a save in the case of a "horrible" flop.

[Chamonyx 0]

Hmmm. Howdyo. 84 posts of which only 2 have any poker content.Go back and play with "your tiny weenie" in General

[InertGrudge 0]

Thanks for the advice. I actually just flat-called. The flop really wasn't what I was looking for at all: K-9-3. I played it really weak and just checked. Villian1 potted, Villian2 re-potted (basically going all-in at this point), and I waited a long while and folded.Villian1's hand: A2-x-xVillian2's hand: K-9-Q-J double suited.I really doubted myself for just smooth-calling. I think if V1 pots the flop and V2 just calls (as in Cham's example), I would have pushed back, but I was facing more than $18 cold on the flop and I didn't think my hand was very good at that point.

[dank773 0]

One other thing about this hand, I think I would limp in EP with this hand, and hope to get a chance to re-raise.