Royal_Tour 0 Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 Wanna know your feedbackSorry, site i played doesnt have a copy paste hand history feature.Bit of info on this: Pretty new account i just opend, so i doubt i'm tagged yet.Multi tabling .50/1.00 NL 8 players at tableHero is UTG with A,A (love the aces, but not a fan of UTG)[$96.00] Hero bets $6.00 fold, fold,[$130.00] MP 2 call $6.00 fold SB fold[$104.00] BB call $5.00 (BB is a female, was well known at the table, talking to people, i've played tables with her on my old account, she was tagged with call station, semi- aggressive, loves to chase even without odds)Pot (18.50 -rake) flop is (4c,6s,9h) BB checksHero bets [$20.00]MP2 - foldBB - call [$20.00]Turn ( 9c )BB - all in [$78.00]Hero - Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 Well, you said you had played with her before, so my question is would she make this kind of move when she turns trips. I think i would have to fold here, something just tells me with how she moved in, not slowplaying that she has the 9.Just my thoughts, but hey, im not to great at this game we call poker. Link to post Share on other sites
Royal_Tour 0 Posted November 16, 2005 Author Share Posted November 16, 2005 Well, you said you had played with her before, so my question is would she make this kind of move when she turns trips. I think i would have to fold here, something just tells me with how she moved in, not slowplaying that she has the 9.Just my thoughts, but hey, im not to great at this game we call poker.very first hand she played when she sat down was as the button, blinds passed she posted. i was SB,folds around and is just us 3, button and blinds. flops comes, i hit bottom pair, i bet out half pot. BB folds., button (her) raises 5x my bet.i fold. previous games with her tell me shes a donkey, but hasnt appeared to have gone bankrupt yet Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 ok, well as you saying shes a total donkey i could see her having this 9, and i could see her not having a clue to what a 9 is this hand. I think i would still fold in this spot though, like everyone says, A A can't always win. Link to post Share on other sites
Royal_Tour 0 Posted November 16, 2005 Author Share Posted November 16, 2005 ok, well as you saying shes a total donkey i could see her having this 9, and i could see her not having a clue to what a 9 is this hand. I think i would still fold in this spot though, like everyone says, A A can't always win.thanks for the feedback youngin Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 lol, i know it wasn't much, I'd like to see what other people have to say and how it played out though, we're all learning here. Link to post Share on other sites
Royal_Tour 0 Posted November 16, 2005 Author Share Posted November 16, 2005 lol, i know it wasn't much, I'd like to see what other people have to say and how it played out though, we're all learning here.i'l post a nice conclusion as soon as i get a bit more posts. Link to post Share on other sites
Scott3705 0 Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 I'm folding. Brilliant bluff to take scare AA off his hand by betting the paired high card. For me, more times than not this is turned trips. maybe it's a bluff, but i'm folding unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 yeah I fold, when the top pair pairs you really have to be careful. save 78 bucks for the next time you pick up a hand and take all her money. Link to post Share on other sites
Royal_Tour 0 Posted November 16, 2005 Author Share Posted November 16, 2005 ok, well 102 viewed the thread but only 3 people replied. You all suck u know that.This hand really got me thinking. It doesnt seem like much, but I took all but 2 seconds from the time clock to make my choice.I called. first thing that hit me was A,9 suited or off suit. Just seemed very very possible. She really was quite the donk. I've seen her before, and she'd be willing to invest chips on gut shot draws.The preflop raise wasnt much, and i could see her calling from BB with A,9. she also called my flop bet. but this is where it hit me. she only called the bet. what is she waiting for?, its a rainbow board. If her A,9 was suited, its not a flush draw. so why would she only call with TP/TK? what could she have possibly thought was going to happen on the turn.So the turn, braught another 9. she pushed all in. Why? does she have the 9? what does she think i have, that i would call this all in? if she puts me on aces then her A,9 call would be pretty stupid. unless she puts me on 2 over cards? thats a possibility. perhaps i looked like a pot steal on the flop with all rags on board. This is a very good possibility. but what if i actually had a hand. could i make these same exact plays with 10,10, J,J or Q,Q?I dont see why not?, rags hit, and i'd be very thankfull to take down a 20.00 pot right then a there. But could i call a push on the turn? i have a feeling she was going to push the turn regardless of what hit, as long as it wasnt a A.With all this runing through my mind, and her ability to push the 2nd 9 made me think her fake 9 was no good. I dont think she wanted to see the river.so with 2 seconds left i hit call, and turned my aces, she turned Q,Q. and my aces held.thanks for the replies. I would have folded too. but all these threads on folding, made me get the extra courage to say, "fak it" Link to post Share on other sites
TeeSludge 0 Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 Having not read replies....I would make this call. This is the perfect opportunity for her to make a bluff at the pot. I think that more often then not when someone calls on the flop and then bets the scare card into you on the turn it is a sign of weakness. The only trouble I'm having is putting her on a range of hands. Would she raise top pair on the flop? Link to post Share on other sites
Scott3705 0 Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 I would make this call. This is the perfect opportunity for her to make a bluff at the pot. I think that more often then not when someone calls on the flop and then bets the scare card into you on the turn it is a sign of weakness. Funny my experience (.25/.5nl) is completely the opposite. Link to post Share on other sites
Jordan 1 Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 no way im folding.if she has trips you are being check raised cause less than %10 of players lead out with trips cause less than %10 are really "players".My opinion...- Jordan Link to post Share on other sites
MarionSauce 0 Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 I already read your results so maybe I am biased.You have to take in account that she called the 6BB raise so that SHOULD eliminate A9, but then you said she was a total donkey-unfortunately with no PF information. Generally you would think strong overpairs to be able to call that pf raise and your pot sized bet on the flopDo you think she would raise you on the flop if she had A9, or is she generally a calling station so that the turn bet surprised you? Also, why the check-call on the flop, do you think she would bet with top pair here or are is mr. Mitch so aggressive she's waiting for you to bet Link to post Share on other sites
Royal_Tour 0 Posted November 16, 2005 Author Share Posted November 16, 2005 I already read your results so maybe I am biased.You have to take in account that she called the 6BB raise so that SHOULD eliminate A9, but then you said she was a total donkey-unfortunately with no PF information. Generally you would think strong overpairs to be able to call that pf raise and your pot sized bet on the flopDo you think she would raise you on the flop if she had A9, or is she generally a calling station so that the turn bet surprised you? Also, why the check-call on the flop, do you think she would bet with top pair here or are is mr. Mitch so aggressive she's waiting for you to betI know poo bear, this is what i was thinking, which is why eventually i hit the call button. :-) these were all the questions i asked myself, and seeing how she pushed me off our first encounter, i think she had similar ideas. u Link to post Share on other sites
TJ_Eckleburg 0 Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 Haven't read replies.I'm inclined to call this. Most 9's would bet out on the flop... and I'd like to think we weren't called with something that made junk two pair.I think this is a worse overpair more often than anything else. Link to post Share on other sites
loogie 115 Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 I didn't read this in time to respond before you posted the results.Your analysis was correct. She could have A9, but she could also have TT, JJ, QQ. Call. Yada yada. Link to post Share on other sites
TJ_Eckleburg 0 Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 Having read replies and results...Woohoo! Link to post Share on other sites
MarionSauce 0 Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 Having read replies and results...Woohoo!You the man, cracka!! Link to post Share on other sites
TJ_Eckleburg 0 Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 Having read replies and results...Woohoo!You the man, cracka!!'preesh (:I knew there was a reason I posted "haven't read replies" each time I hadn't read replies. Link to post Share on other sites
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