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[Lobo42]

A realization came to me out of the blue (well actually after punishing a lucky drawer). Poker is one of those games where your intelligence, observation, awareness, discipline, imagination, creativity willingness to study and other positive attributes.... WILL pay off in the long run. Those who "choose" to act (or are) less intelligent, less imaginative, less disciplined, and are not willing to study or put in some "higher thinking" to improving their game will pay you (that is after they draw out on you a game or two).On the other hand there are many jobs where intelligence and mentioned traits (in relation to the job of course)... WILL never benefit you because of various factors, incompetent leaders, pecking orders, lack of oppurtunity (to use intelligence), and generally limited upward growth oppurtunities.COOL... So in poker (if you have it..or develop it) you get to use your intelligence and "poker education" to gain/win, capitalize from those who lack the "required" positive triats (possibly intelligence), or from those who like to gamble (or play by hunch). No matter how badly your opponents desire to win or beat you.. You all are on equal terms (in the long run) and your intelligence and discipline should pay off by punishing those who you have "the advantage" over. :twisted:

[teneight]

nice first postwelcome to FCP. i like you already

[dreamcaster]

The newbies are getting better.I like this post.Welcome to FCP.

[dreamcaster]

Man your quick 10-8P.S. Stay in school. You'll have plenty of time to turn pro and make millions.edit: The school comment was referring to 10-8 and his Blank post.

[darbour21]

good post

[Dirtydutch]

The newbies are getting better. Yeah, the newbies are slipping.No question for DN.No bad beat story.No crazy claims of be a 14 year old pro, who make a brazillian a day.

[AlphaOmega]

nice first post. TP/MM

[loogie]

Huh? I just push with AA.

[Lindemulet]

I like it. I'm 21 and I lose a brazillian a day. Guess what he says about intelligence is correct...

[SuM827]

Lobo42 said:

A Poker is one of those games where your intelligence, observation, awareness, discipline, imagination, creativity willingness to study and other positive attributes.... WILL pay off in the long run. Those who "choose" to act (or are) less intelligent, less imaginative, less disciplined, and are not willing to study or put in some "higher thinking" to improving their game will pay you (that is after they draw out on you a game or two).

This is very true, and is one of the reasons I love poker. It's been described as the modern pure marketplace, with everyone trading on their intelligence, and pattern recognition skills. However, you also have to understand that there are other factors involved. Most losing poker players have a character flaw which prevents them from making money. Either they're gambling for fun, and don't care, or they lack the ability to detach emotion from the decisions they make. I mean, how many of us can recall all of the players that take it personally when you raise their bet? Also control issues, and bankroll management problems also turn people into losers.They say that only 10% of players turn a profit......

[supertouch]

i agree with this post 100%. especially the part about people taking it personally when you re-raise them. i feel like sometimes i will go out of my way to re-raise them jsut because it throws them off their "A game".

[tskillz187]

SuM827 said:

Lobo42 said:

A Poker is one of those games where your intelligence, observation, awareness, discipline, imagination, creativity willingness to study and other positive attributes.... WILL pay off in the long run. Those who "choose" to act (or are) less intelligent, less imaginative, less disciplined, and are not willing to study or put in some "higher thinking" to improving their game will pay you (that is after they draw out on you a game or two).

This is very true, and is one of the reasons I love poker. It's been described as the modern pure marketplace, with everyone trading on their intelligence, and pattern recognition skills. However, you also have to understand that there are other factors involved. Most losing poker players have a character flaw which prevents them from making money. Either they're gambling for fun, and don't care, or they lack the ability to detach emotion from the decisions they make. I mean, how many of us can recall all of the players that take it personally when you raise their bet? Also control issues, and bankroll management problems also turn people into losers.They say that only 10% of players turn a profit......

I think it is far, far less than 10% too.

[SuM827]

tskillz187 said:

SuM827 said:

Lobo42 said:

A Poker is one of those games where your intelligence, observation, awareness, discipline, imagination, creativity willingness to study and other positive attributes.... WILL pay off in the long run. Those who "choose" to act (or are) less intelligent, less imaginative, less disciplined, and are not willing to study or put in some "higher thinking" to improving their game will pay you (that is after they draw out on you a game or two).

This is very true, and is one of the reasons I love poker. It's been described as the modern pure marketplace, with everyone trading on their intelligence, and pattern recognition skills. However, you also have to understand that there are other factors involved. Most losing poker players have a character flaw which prevents them from making money. Either they're gambling for fun, and don't care, or they lack the ability to detach emotion from the decisions they make. I mean, how many of us can recall all of the players that take it personally when you raise their bet? Also control issues, and bankroll management problems also turn people into losers.They say that only 10% of players turn a profit......

I think it is far, far less than 10% too.

Well, I've heard lower figures, but I know that there are brilliant players that wind up losing at year's end, not because they played poorly, but because they keep trying to move up and win at a limit that they simply cannot beat either due to lack of experience, or because they lack the talent. I know I've done this (not online of course), and until you make breakthroughs in your game, it will kill your profitability. Think of it this way: there are only a few players that make money in the biggest game, out of the millions who play, everyone else has probably gotten busted after finding a limit that they couldn't win at, most of them however keep trying to move up, which is why so many are broke so often, and also why borrowing money is part of the poker culture.But, I think you have to count these people as winners, because there is a limit that they know they can beat.

[MikePatrick]

Very good first post.Great theory!Welcome to FCP. 8)

[PAYforUSC]

this applies to all markets. welcome aboard mate :!:

[finztotheleft]

Very thought provoking . The only thing I would add is the required aggression, although I suppose you could loosely consider that a combo of discipline and creativity. Unfortunately, that is the weakness in my game.