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[Mattnxtc]

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cxPreflop: Hero is MP3 with [Kd], [Jd]. 4 folds, SB calls, BB calls.Flop: (6 SB) [5c], [2d], [6d] (4 players)SB bets, SB folds, BB calls.Turn: (5.50 BB) [8d] (3 players)BB checks, Hero checks???Now i normally I think its an easy bet...I mean i made the hand i was tryin to make and I am probably around 100% to win the hand now. But heres my thinking on the check...BB stats have him at a vpip of 11% and him and the word aggression arent goign to be used in the same sentence anytime soon. So i think by checking i may be more likely to pick up one more bet than i would if i bet Against a normal party fish id bet but i think he may be an exceptionP.S. party sucks during the day...i coudlnt find a table with a vpip above 25 and had one at 12 for a while

[DCWildcat]

i seriously doubt you're getting more than 1 bet out of him no matter what you do. i don't think it matters too much. still favoring the bet though. what's his went to showdown stat?

[Mattnxtc]

in 20 hands he hadnt gone to showdown yetand just so i can edit this 3 times...What i am hopin with this turn check is that he will make some sort of hand, maybe hit the straight draw if hes on it and lead the river leading to me raising him to gain the bet back. LIke i said i dont like to make this play but i wanted felt i was so far ahead in the hand that i could allow the card to hopefully improve him

[AlphaOmega]

I like to keep betting. If he calls a 2-bet to see the turn, I can't see how he'd instantly muck his cards when a scare diamond hit. If you are going to have trouble extracting from him, I don't see how giving him another card is going to solve this. What if another diamond falls, or the board pairs, or something falls that would cause him to turtle up when he might have called a turn bet? What if he has the naked ace of diamonds, or has a smaller flush that he's looking to c/r?

[Actuary]

really really bad check***read replies*****AlphaOmega has great points.He also may have the Ad, and beat you if another D comes

[Mattnxtc]

i think yall are really stretchin it to assume he may have the Ad...yes he may..but he also may have a time machine. The other 99% of the time he is drawing dead or to 4 outs and i am way ahead. Why should i force him to fold when i can hopefully make up for it on the river if he bets

[Actuary]

opponents who are still trying to make a hand will call.On river, they likely don't have a hand and aren't drawing anymore.He's passive, so you aren't inducing a bluff

[akishore]

honestly matt, this isn't that close.there are times that creative plays are interesting and more profitable than the norm, but this really isn't one of them.even if you aren't worried about giving a free card, you're just losing value.just my opinion.aseem

[Mattnxtc]

akishore said:

honestly matt, this isn't that close.there are times that creative plays are interesting and more profitable than the norm, but this really isn't one of them.even if you aren't worried about giving a free card, you're just losing value.just my opinion.aseem

I might be...thats why i posted it...Its still my thinkin that he was going to fold to any bet from me on the turn and if thats true then i made a +ev play. As it is he c/c the river and showed k5. So based on the result it does appear that i made the right play as it appears he put me on just 2 high cards. I am still kinda thinkin this is the right play against a mouse player though in similar situations where u are near 100% to win the hand

[Actuary]

you don't think he calls the turn with K5 ?Maybe he catches two pair on the turn and you can get 3 bets from him, next time.checking is bad and in the long run will not make money.

[Mattnxtc]

Actuary said:

you don't think he calls the turn with K5 ?Maybe he catches two pair on the turn and you can get 3 bets from him, next time.checking is bad and in the long run will not make money.

based on the fact that he hadnt shown down a hand yet...i am very skeptical as to whether he would or not...and Checking is certain situations is very much +ev. I had never attempted this move before but against him i felt it was alright...maybe im wrong..i just dont know that he would have called