also u got a big check list of what possible holdings this guy has and percentage this and e.v. that. but let me tell u something, in a card room, u dont have all day to go through the check list in yur head. even the friggin dealers will rush u.
HOH 1 + 2, Harrington advises making a checklist in your head actually. Certainly that's tournament play but it also applies for cash games of course. It doesn't take all that long.
u raise that sucker hard on the flop and get him to break his draw. the next pot u r heads up with him, u better not bluff the guy because he WILL be coming after u. he'll never forget the way u jacked him up on the previous hand and he'll be dying to ring those chips out of u any way he can. thats experience talking
I agree with you here pmc, that raising for metagame considerations has some validity (setting up future plays, in this case).In this example however, villain is a known loose player that plays fast post flop. I would personally c/c flop c/c turn, c/r all in on river. Let him make the pot bigger and bluff away his chips.
Hurricane Kyle said:
Against a loose wild eyed aggressive player, calling is rarely right because you have no way of knowing what he has. Against LAG's, its much better to raise to find out information because their bet really means nothing. Like you said LAGs aren't stupid, they'll bet with anything but they WON'T call with anything. Thats why its important to raise in this spot. Plus if you raise and he has an ace, you will still get action on 4th and 5th.
You're being a bit results oriented here. What kind of info do we want from this guy? In essence, by raising this flop, we shut out a majority of hands that opponent would continuation bluff with on the turn.We call the flop, we get lots of value from bluffs on the next street and get sucked out on a small percentage of the timeversusWe raise the flop, we get lots of value from a much smaller range of hands [now we could assume villain to at least have a pair of some sort or better if the raise was substantial], so we are shutting out all the garbage, but we take the pot down right here before the turn.on the off chance that we are facing a set on the flop, villain is doubling through us no matter what.calling is better -- thats my personal assessment of the situation.Also didn't Doyle say it best, when you are really strong, give them a chance to catch up a bit? ;)Best,Chief