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#1 ANJBerg

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Posted 06 February 2005 - 06:20 AM

We have a league, and for one of our events we would like to run a heads-up knockout tournament. I was wondering what a good system was to do this, ie starting chip counts, blind levels, and length of blinds. Any help would be appreciated!!
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Posted 07 February 2005 - 12:34 AM

hey man,we have done quite a few tournaments over the last 18 months, and have adapted it at least a dozen times. we have gotten to the point where we have stuck to it for over 6 months. (it's a keeper)we all start with 5000 in chips. the blinds start at:50/100100/200200/400400/800800/16001500/30002000/40003000/60005000/1000010000/2000020000/40000the blinds are increased (on a three dollar kitchen timer) every 15 to 20 minutes, depending on whether we pay a dealer(s), or if the game is self dealt by the players involved. we also have adopted a new rule, whereby the "dealer" for the rest of the game, is the PENALTY for being eliminated first. we usually vote on this prior to the start, and for a month now it seems to be an accepted rule. we play at least twice a week, and seem to be stealing a lot of business from neighbouring poker houses in Vancouver. (we play in the back room of my buddy's restaurant) the actual entry fees range from twenty to two thousand dollars. sometimes rebuys, sometimes not. we are told we have the best game in town by many. even the casino manager (biggest poker room in canada) come to our show, and assure us that we are bang on. the chip breakdown is as follows:2 x 10004 x 5007 x 1006 x 50for a total of 5000 in chips (19 chips per player)as i said....flawless system. we have done single table games as low as 8 players, all the way to 38 players for multi-table contests.always a kickass game, but like i stated earlier....not without a lot of field testing and refinement.in a way, i wish this system was handed to me, but on the other hand, there is a great deal of satisfaction in crafting it from my own research and testing. i have hosted many shows in vancouver for everyone from bankers, to friends, and even 2 local hells angels chapters. believe me, man....when those guys pat you on the back for the work you've done in setting up a tournament for them, then you know you are on the right track.get yourself some hot stamped chips, (so that you don't get the endless queries like...."how much is the blue one worth again?"...and you are off to the races) PRIMO CASINO on ebay, has a HIGH $$$ chip set that is the best price on the market (even comes with stainless steel "dealer" buttons...can't beat it) check 'em out for yourself.get some plastic cards (KEM cards) from the same site, and you too can go around and host your own basement casino,etc. you can make a ton on "house fees" alone. "if you build it ....they will come." i haven't worked in 14 months now. think about it. oh yeah, and don't forget to go to homepokertourney.com, and print out their rule booklet. it always diffuses the inevitable arguements that will no doubt arise. have it all on paper, man.if you are ever in Vancouver, come check us out.have fun, and make a ton!!!!dino.

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Posted 12 April 2005 - 12:47 PM

For our home game (average 8 players), we start with $20 in chips, with the blinds at $0.25/$0.50. We do rebuys until 10 or 11 (start at 7 or 8). Every time someone is knocked out (but does not rebuy), we double the blinds. This makes for a nice drawn out rebuy period, then when rebuys are over it goes at a nice pace. :wink:

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Posted 15 April 2005 - 11:18 AM

20 dollars in chips????? what are you 10 years old? c'mon man....if you have a blank set of chips, why not pump it up a bit? 20 dollar total chip count hardly lends itself to "putting the other man to a decision". the phrase "all-in" should bring some hesitation to the minds of all players that follow.....follow? if you have hot stamped chips and don't have enough in the set for 20 dollars per person, then it is time for a new set. buy a new set and take a house fee for a few weeks until the chipset gets payed off. take control of your game, man. it sounds very weak.

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Posted 15 April 2005 - 11:21 AM

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20 dollars in chips????? what are you 10 years old? c'mon man....if you have a blank set of chips, why not pump it up a bit? 20 dollar total chip count hardly lends itself to "putting the other man to a decision". the phrase "all-in" should bring some hesitation to the minds of all players that follow.....follow? if you have hot stamped chips and don't have enough in the set for 20 dollars per person, then it is time for a new set. buy a new set and take a house fee for a few weeks until the chipset gets payed off. take control of your game, man. it sounds very weak.
Hey, it works for us. less chips = more re-buys = more winnings. I'm not complaining with them at all as I am WAY up on the group. First time I sat down I started counting out like $100 per person, and just about got thrown out. They will figure it out eventually.

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Posted 17 May 2005 - 12:03 AM

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hey man,we have done quite a few tournaments over the last 18 months, and have adapted it at least a dozen times. we have gotten to the point where we have stuck to it for over 6 months. (it's a keeper)we all start with 5000 in chips. the blinds start at:50/100100/200200/400400/800800/16001500/30002000/40003000/60005000/1000010000/2000020000/40000the blinds are increased (on a three dollar kitchen timer) every 15 to 20 minutes, depending on whether we pay a dealer(s), or if the game is self dealt by the players involved. we also have adopted a new rule, whereby the "dealer" for the rest of the game, is the PENALTY for being eliminated first. we usually vote on this prior to the start, and for a month now it seems to be an accepted rule. we play at least twice a week, and seem to be stealing a lot of business from neighbouring poker houses in Vancouver. (we play in the back room of my buddy's restaurant) the actual entry fees range from twenty to two thousand dollars. sometimes rebuys, sometimes not. we are told we have the best game in town by many. even the casino manager (biggest poker room in canada) come to our show, and assure us that we are bang on. the chip breakdown is as follows:2 x 10004 x 5007 x 1006 x 50for a total of 5000 in chips (19 chips per player)as i said....flawless system. we have done single table games as low as 8 players, all the way to 38 players for multi-table contests.always a kickass game, but like i stated earlier....not without a lot of field testing and refinement.in a way, i wish this system was handed to me, but on the other hand, there is a great deal of satisfaction in crafting it from my own research and testing. i have hosted many shows in vancouver for everyone from bankers, to friends, and even 2 local hells angels chapters. believe me, man....when those guys pat you on the back for the work you've done in setting up a tournament for them, then you know you are on the right track.get yourself some hot stamped chips, (so that you don't get the endless queries like...."how much is the blue one worth again?"...and you are off to the races) PRIMO CASINO on ebay, has a HIGH $$$ chip set that is the best price on the market (even comes with stainless steel "dealer" buttons...can't beat it) check 'em out for yourself.get some plastic cards (KEM cards) from the same site, and you too can go around and host your own basement casino,etc. you can make a ton on "house fees" alone. "if you build it ....they will come." i haven't worked in 14 months now. think about it. oh yeah, and don't forget to go to homepokertourney.com, and print out their rule booklet. it always diffuses the inevitable arguements that will no doubt arise. have it all on paper, man.if you are ever in Vancouver, come check us out.have fun, and make a ton!!!!dino.
i was getting bored of our chip structure, and decided to come on here for any new ideas, since I lack the originallity to think of 1 on my own, and I found this post, and tried it, and I really like the structure u listed here....its a lot more for to say to 1 of your buddies...I'm all-in for $3,200 than to say im all-in for $10.75. It works just as smooth and isn't as childish as the structure we were using forever ($15.00 in chips, 20 x .25 chips (whites), 12 x .50 chips (reds), 4 x 1.00 chips (blacks)...for a total of 36 chips, but the values were actual money values), we play $5, $10, $15 buy-ins usually and sometimes allow re-buys, and the new structure is a lot more fun and just as easy to figure. 19 chips didn't seem like enuff to me, but its easy to toss a $500 or $1000 chip in the pot to change it....so it runs smoothy, we played 4 home tourneygames today, and 3/4 games we used this structure, the 1 other 1 my gf wanted to use the old one cuz she was "used to it." Anyways, basically just sayin I like the structure.Peace
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