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#1 Mattnxtc

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Posted 06 November 2005 - 06:10 PM

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 max, 8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cxPreflop: Hero is MP2 with [Ac], [Js]. Hero posts a blind of $1. 2 folds, BB calls.Flop: (6.50 SB) [Td], [As], [2s] (3 players)BB checks, MP1 bets, BB folds, MP1 calls.Turn: (5.25 BB) [Ts] (2 players)MP1 checks, Hero bets, Hero calls.River: (9.25 BB) [Jc] (2 players)MP1 bets, MP1 calls.Final Pot: 13.25 BBhow does the hand play? first hand in so i just assume that they have something solid. His turn raise was interesting but i didnt necessarily think it was a 10
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Posted 06 November 2005 - 11:29 PM

A c/r on the turn when the board pairs and there are 3 to a flush...given you have no reads on the villain I think I would try to play this safe and just call when he leads on the river despite your hand improving

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Posted 07 November 2005 - 07:30 AM

Flush draw hit and 10 paired on turn. I'm assuming you're calling a 3 bet on the river right?As is i'm just calling the river and hoping I just handed AK or AQ a beat.

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Posted 07 November 2005 - 08:22 AM

just call the river

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Posted 07 November 2005 - 10:47 AM

Would 3-betting pre-flop to Isolate the raiser be a horrible play? Granted, it didn't matter in this hand, but would that be a bad play? I hate cold-calling. lol.

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Posted 07 November 2005 - 10:48 AM

Would 3-betting pre-flop to Isolate the raiser be a horrible play? Granted, it didn't matter in this hand, but would that be a bad play? I hate cold-calling. lol.

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Posted 07 November 2005 - 11:03 AM

Pancake407 said:

Would 3-betting pre-flop to Isolate the raiser be a horrible play? Granted, it didn't matter in this hand, but would that be a bad play? I hate cold-calling. lol.
Yes, AJ plays pretty well in multi way pots and the only hands you're going to eliminate by 3 betting are hands that you have killed.

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Posted 07 November 2005 - 02:19 PM

Haven't read replies.I think raising (my preference) or folding might be better preflop.On the river the question is whether the river raise is good often enough. For his lead, I don't mind just calling. We beat all better aces now... but he's still represented the 10, the flush, a boat... yadda yadda.
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Posted 07 November 2005 - 02:20 PM

pokerplayer24 said:

Pancake407 said:

Would 3-betting pre-flop to Isolate the raiser be a horrible play? Granted, it didn't matter in this hand, but would that be a bad play? I hate cold-calling. lol.
Yes, AJ plays pretty well in multi way pots and the only hands you're going to eliminate by 3 betting are hands that you have killed.
AJ does NOT play well in multiway pots which is precisely why I want to 3-bet here.
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Posted 07 November 2005 - 03:13 PM

I consider folding preflop depending on the game.Calling is the worst option.I don't like AJo against an EP raiser with lots of action left behind me. Call me a weak-tighty.

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Posted 07 November 2005 - 03:30 PM

Pre-flop: 3-bet and try to get heads up with MP1. Or just fold. I don't like the call, you could easily be dominated. I would definitely 3-bet with AJ sooted.Turn: The board paired, 3 to the flush shows up, the top pair isn't looking that strong anymore. You have a flush draw with the Js.River: Just call. Did MP1 turn over AA?

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Posted 07 November 2005 - 04:07 PM

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Pre-flop: 3-bet and try to get heads up with MP1. Or just fold. I don't like the call, you could easily be dominated. I would definitely 3-bet with AJ sooted.Turn: The board paired, 3 to the flush shows up, the top pair isn't looking that strong anymore. You have a flush draw with the Js.River: Just call. Did MP1 turn over AA?
im not a fan of 3betting ajo, but since i posted it was a relatively easy call to make. I was fairly confident the turn didnt help this guy. It seemed unlikely that he would have a flush and if so im drawing to a jack high flush too...and it didnt seem likely that he was holding a 10. river. my read after the turn was he had ax maybe had me out kicked but wasnt sure. I hit the higher 2 pair and felt that if he had ax i now had a higher 2 pair and was now in the lead.and no he didnt turn over AA...If he had then he played the hand very badly. In actuality he did play the hand very poorly with what hand he showed and no he had neither a flush or a straight so i was right on my read. He showed pkt 2s which was very odd with the way he played the entire hand
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