econ_tim 0 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cxPreflop: econ_tim is BB with T:club:, J:spade:. 1 fold, CO folds, Button calls, econ_tim calls.Flop: (10.50 SB) J:club:, T:heart:, 7:diamond: (3 players)econ_tim checks, MP bets, Button calls, econ_tim calls.Turn: (9.75 BB) 3:diamond: (3 players)econ_tim checks, MP bets, MP calls, Button calls.River: (15.75 BB) 7:club: (3 players)econ_tim bets, MP calls, Button folds.Final Pot: 17.75 BBPreflop is loose. Don't try it without a pattern mapper.Riva suckssssssss for me. But go to value bet in case MP is an idiot. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 My only question is... wtf is a pattern mapper?? Link to post Share on other sites
TJ_Eckleburg 0 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 Maybe 3-bet the flop?A "pattern mapper" is an old joke on this forum. We used to say to fish when we outdrew them that we had a pattern mapper that told us when our set was hitting on the turn. Hilarity ensues. Link to post Share on other sites
speedz99 145 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 Are you kidding about preflop? Isn't that pretty standard?I don't think you have to value bet there. What is calling you that you didn't just get counterfeited (sp?) by? Link to post Share on other sites
Kendren 1 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 Are you kidding about preflop? Isn't that pretty standard?I don't think you have to value bet there. What is calling you that you didn't just get counterfeited (sp?) by?AT, KT, T3 maybe, J9MAYBE we get QQ or KK to fold, but I doubt that. Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 Is it weak of me to fold pre-flop in this spot? Link to post Share on other sites
Kendren 1 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 Is it weak of me to fold pre-flop in this spot?I think so, I defend a button raise with alot worse than this. With limpers in, I think it makes it easier, since our hand plays pretty well multiway. Link to post Share on other sites
TJ_Eckleburg 0 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 Is it weak of me to fold pre-flop in this spot?I was thinking the same thing.Does anybody else think 3-betting the flop might be better than calling 2 cold? Link to post Share on other sites
TJ_Eckleburg 0 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 Is it weak of me to fold pre-flop in this spot?I think so, I defend a button raise with alot worse than this. With limpers in, I think it makes it easier, since our hand plays pretty well multiway.I think I call it suited and fold it offsuit.Kinda like 89. Link to post Share on other sites
speedz99 145 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 Are you kidding about preflop? Isn't that pretty standard?I don't think you have to value bet there. What is calling you that you didn't just get counterfeited (sp?) by? AT, KT, T3 maybe, J9MAYBE we get QQ or KK to fold, but I doubt that.Are these hands really limp-reraising preflop? Maybe AT, but doubtful.And no, QQ and KK are not folding...if they are smart they are raising. Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 Oh yeah, I'm definitely calling JTs in this spot. No question. I just don't like that we're going to be out of position against a field with a rather mediocre hand.And, with two limpers, the button is less likely on a straight steal. I guess that's my problem here. If there were more limpers or if they're weren't any limpers, I'd feel better about calling here. This is that awkward middle ground that I don't like. Link to post Share on other sites
screech 0 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 Tim, I like how you played the hand.I probably check/call the river though. Link to post Share on other sites
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