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[J-Dub]

I'm 99% sure I made the correct decision here, I guess I could just use some reassurance. I had been playing at this online table for about 1:30, I'd doubled up and was ready to leave after the blinds. Big blind rolls around to me and I find pocket Aces. There's one limper in middle possitin, and the small blind calls. This is $100 NL, $1 and $2 blind, btw. I feel I've got enough people in, might was well raise it small to keep em in and juice up the pot. I make it $4 to go, call call. Flop comes 10 A 8 . I probably shoulda led out and bet, but I thought a check raise would be more effective, which I did. Check, middle player bets $6, sb calls, I make it $25. Mp folds, sb calls. Turn is 4 , sb chgecks, I bet $20, he calls. River comes 9 and the sb goes all-in covering me about 2-1.This is a player I haven't seen play almost any hands, and he's sitting on a real nice stack, $250. Very few showdowns, and when he does, he's usually got it. My gut says he was on the flush draw, probably K Q and made it. I can't fathom why else he'd make such a large call on the flop. Unless he also flopped a set and felt I had nothing to support my betting. Although I hadn't seem him bluff at any pots all night.Anyway, just wondering what y'all think and how you might have played it differently. I ended up loosing almost all I had made on that hand.

[Bonobio]

Sounds more like they hit a straight to me.

[J-Dub]

I'd find it hard to swallow that they were playing QJ thatstrongly, and chasing in inside stright for that kind of money. Like I said, they were playing tight all night.

[polishbrain]

While i'm no expert by any means i wouldn't be suprised to see a Q J that would have given the person one hell of a lot of outs on that flop, the flush and mulitple shots at a straight. Just food for thought. If i were on that side of it, and you made the $25, i'd have put you on a set or a flush draw and if i was on the same flush draw i like my QJ if i put you on a set, i figure nuts on the turn and since you are the one doing the betting I'll just call to keep you from running. Aside from all my rambling I'd say Q J would have probably been the hand.

[J-Dub]

yeah, that seems logical, too.

[wrto4556]

J-Dub said:

I feel I've got enough people in, might was well raise it small to keep em in and juice up the pot. I make it $4 to go, call call.

That's where you f'ed up. But it was a good lay down none the less....just wouldn't have been as likely to happen if you wouldn't have raised small.

[holman3rd]

Bonobio said:

Sounds more like they hit a straight to me.

I agree with this, although it seems we're in the minority. The reason being that a made flush on the turn seems unlikely given that he check-called the turn and then led all-in on the river. I'm more inclined to believe that the river helped him. Either way, I would have layed down the aces too. Another possibility is a set of nines, but I think the probability is less than the straight, so I fold. I'd auto-call if this were limit.As for whether or not QJ is feasible, you said yourself that "This is a player I haven't seen play almost any hands, and he's sitting on a real nice stack"

[Abbaddabba]

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I'd find it hard to swallow that they were playing QJ thatstrongly, and chasing in inside stright for that kind of money.

J/Q would make him open ended on the flop. K or 9 completes his straight.Too many people were out there to be calling an all in with trips. The fact that they're a set of aces should have a marginal impact on your decision. If they were the lowest set, you would fold them without a second though - yet the difference in the strength between those two hands is very small (the sum of the probabilities of someone having a higher set, which is pretty damn rare).