J-Dub 0 Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 I'm 99% sure I made the correct decision here, I guess I could just use some reassurance. I had been playing at this online table for about 1:30, I'd doubled up and was ready to leave after the blinds. Big blind rolls around to me and I find pocket Aces. There's one limper in middle possitin, and the small blind calls. This is $100 NL, $1 and $2 blind, btw. I feel I've got enough people in, might was well raise it small to keep em in and juice up the pot. I make it $4 to go, call call. Flop comes 10 A 8 . I probably shoulda led out and bet, but I thought a check raise would be more effective, which I did. Check, middle player bets $6, sb calls, I make it $25. Mp folds, sb calls. Turn is 4 , sb chgecks, I bet $20, he calls. River comes 9 and the sb goes all-in covering me about 2-1.This is a player I haven't seen play almost any hands, and he's sitting on a real nice stack, $250. Very few showdowns, and when he does, he's usually got it. My gut says he was on the flush draw, probably K Q and made it. I can't fathom why else he'd make such a large call on the flop. Unless he also flopped a set and felt I had nothing to support my betting. Although I hadn't seem him bluff at any pots all night.Anyway, just wondering what y'all think and how you might have played it differently. I ended up loosing almost all I had made on that hand. Link to post Share on other sites
Bonobio 0 Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 Sounds more like they hit a straight to me. Link to post Share on other sites
J-Dub 0 Posted February 5, 2005 Author Share Posted February 5, 2005 I'd find it hard to swallow that they were playing QJ thatstrongly, and chasing in inside stright for that kind of money. Like I said, they were playing tight all night. Link to post Share on other sites
polishbrain 0 Posted February 5, 2005 Share Posted February 5, 2005 While i'm no expert by any means i wouldn't be suprised to see a Q J that would have given the person one hell of a lot of outs on that flop, the flush and mulitple shots at a straight. Just food for thought. If i were on that side of it, and you made the $25, i'd have put you on a set or a flush draw and if i was on the same flush draw i like my QJ if i put you on a set, i figure nuts on the turn and since you are the one doing the betting I'll just call to keep you from running. Aside from all my rambling I'd say Q J would have probably been the hand. Link to post Share on other sites
J-Dub 0 Posted February 5, 2005 Author Share Posted February 5, 2005 yeah, that seems logical, too. Link to post Share on other sites
wrto4556 0 Posted February 5, 2005 Share Posted February 5, 2005 I feel I've got enough people in, might was well raise it small to keep em in and juice up the pot. I make it $4 to go, call call.That's where you f'ed up. But it was a good lay down none the less....just wouldn't have been as likely to happen if you wouldn't have raised small. Link to post Share on other sites
holman3rd 0 Posted February 6, 2005 Share Posted February 6, 2005 Sounds more like they hit a straight to me.I agree with this, although it seems we're in the minority. The reason being that a made flush on the turn seems unlikely given that he check-called the turn and then led all-in on the river. I'm more inclined to believe that the river helped him. Either way, I would have layed down the aces too. Another possibility is a set of nines, but I think the probability is less than the straight, so I fold. I'd auto-call if this were limit.As for whether or not QJ is feasible, you said yourself that "This is a player I haven't seen play almost any hands, and he's sitting on a real nice stack" Link to post Share on other sites
Abbaddabba 0 Posted February 6, 2005 Share Posted February 6, 2005 I'd find it hard to swallow that they were playing QJ thatstrongly, and chasing in inside stright for that kind of money.J/Q would make him open ended on the flop. K or 9 completes his straight.Too many people were out there to be calling an all in with trips. The fact that they're a set of aces should have a marginal impact on your decision. If they were the lowest set, you would fold them without a second though - yet the difference in the strength between those two hands is very small (the sum of the probabilities of someone having a higher set, which is pretty damn rare). Link to post Share on other sites
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