q9 hand

[hanski 0]

Button is a loose donk. CO is too, maybe a bit better postflop.Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is BB with [9s], [Qs]. 5 folds, Hero calls, CO calls.Flop: (6.50 SB) [Jd], [5d], [9h] (3 players)Hero checks, CO checks, Button bets, CO calls, Button calls.I c/r, my hand may be good, I want to protect against draws and I want CO to fold.Turn: (6.25 BB) [3h] (3 players)Hero bets, CO calls, Button calls.River: (9.25 BB) [Th] (3 players)Hero checksI call a bet back to me.Final Pot: 9.25 BB

[screech 0]

I like it. Especially if you think button would bet.I would fold if CO bet the river. I would c/r if button bet.

[hanski 0]

Yeah, I felt they either had overcards, a flush draw or something else weird. They've been showing down some weak ass hands. Unless one of them had two hearts for a BDFD I think I'm good here, and I wanted to induce a bet on the river from a missed draw. I wanted to showdown so I felt this was better than bet/fold.The ten might have filled up a straight also, so I would rather pay one bet to see showdown and I dunno, these guys were lag enough to have some random hand as often as KQ.

[kcb 0]

Yeah, I think you played this right. It seemed like CO might be on a draw and I put Button on a smallish pocket pair.The ending?

[akishore 0]

I would fold if CO bet the river. I would c/r if button bet.

that be spewing yojust call dawgaseem

[screech 0]

I would fold if CO bet the river. I would c/r if button bet.

that be spewing yojust call dawgaseem

We have a good chance to be ahead of button.CO is likely ahead of us if he calls, but he will probably fold for 2.The pot is big.How is this a spew?

[akishore 0]

I would fold if CO bet the river. I would c/r if button bet.

that be spewing yojust call dawgaseem

We have a good chance to be ahead of button.CO is likely ahead of us if he calls, but he will probably fold for 2.The pot is big.How is this a spew?

you are overestimating your fold equity versus a better hand against CO wayyy too much in relation to the size of the pot.what better hand is he folding to two cold here? certainly not two pair or better. a jack? not in my experience.you are making quite a big assumption if you just say that CO is ahead of us if he calls. he could easily just have a busted draw.and you also overstimate the chance that you're ahead of button. a lot of players in my experience play hands that beat us on the river the same way throughout the hand (some even play QQ/KK/AA this way, fearing two pair, but betting the river when you check just because). the 10 also easily hits KQ, and you're losing extra money to that.the pot is big, but it's not nearly big enough to justify pulling this move. when i pull moves like that, it's with reliable reads but it's also in considerably bigger pots where the play has to work less often to be profitable.CO isn't folding many better hands at all, and he is often folding to one if he has a missed draw anyway, and he will often overcall one with worse hands. button also is less likely to bet as a bluff than he is for value considering how passively he has played this. a player who fits the profile of a river bluffer here tends to raise somewhere in the hand as well (they tend to be aggressive).i really strongly feel c/r a button bet here is huge spewing. aseem

[screech 0]

what better hand is he folding to two cold here?

A rivered T?I don't know why I'm suggesting such aggressive river lines today. Too much poker. I'm taking the day off.

[hanski 0]

Yeah, I think you played this right.  It seemed like CO might be on a draw and I put Button on a smallish pocket pair.The ending?

yep, pretty spot on sir. CO had 9d 7d and button had 88