split aces hand

[brando 0]

7 Card Stud High ($0.25/$0.50), Ante $0.05, Bring-In $0.10 (hand converter (use internet explorer))Seat 1: $3.70Hero: $8.05Seat 3: $7.50Seat 4: $9.20Seat 5: $26Seat 6: $23.65Seat 7: $5Seat 8: $0.953rd Street - (1.60 SB)Seat 1: xx xx 7:spade: ___calls ___foldsHero: A:club: 8:club: A:heart: ___raisesSeat 3: xx xx 2:heart: ___brings-in ___callsSeat 4: xx xx 4:club: ___calls ___callsSeat 5: xx xx 6:diamond: ___foldsSeat 6: xx xx 8:heart: ___foldsSeat 7: xx xx Q:spade: ___calls ___callsSeat 8: xx xx 7:club: ___calls ___calls4th Street - (7.00 SB)Hero: A:club: 8:club: A:heart: 6:spade: ___raisesSeat 3: xx xx 2:heart: 2:club: ___bets ___callsSeat 4: xx xx 4:club: 9:heart: ___foldsSeat 7: xx xx Q:spade: 5:heart: ___foldsSeat 8: xx xx 7:club: Q:heart: ___calls ___calls $0.15 and is all-in5th Street - (8.80 BB)Hero: A:club: 8:club: A:heart: 6:spade: K:heart: ___bets ___callsSeat 3: xx xx 2:heart: 2:club: K:club: ___checks ___raisesSeat 8: xx xx 7:club: Q:heart: J:spade: ___all-in6th Street - (12.80 BB)Hero: A:club: 8:club: A:heart: 6:spade: K:heart: J:club: ___checksSeat 3: xx xx 2:heart: 2:club: K:club: T:club: ___checksSeat 8: xx xx 7:club: Q:heart: J:spade: 8:diamond: ___all-inRiver - (12.80 BB)Hero: A:club: 8:club: A:heart: 6:spade: K:heart: J:club: 6:club: ___betsSeat 3: xx xx 2:heart: 2:club: K:club: T:club: xx ___checks ___callsSeat 8: xx xx 7:club: Q:heart: J:spade: 8:diamond: xx ___all-inTotal pot: (14.80 BB)New to stud, good/bad?Check on 6th, is that right?

[hotbacon 0]

i'm new to stud too so take this FWIWI don't like the raise on 4th. All the deuces are live. Did he make it a full bet or just a single bet?I think you should check 5th, it looks like one of those situations where you're a little ahead/a little behind/way way behind.6th looks good, as does 7th

[KowboyKoop 0]

7 Card Stud High ($0.25/$0.50), Ante $0.05, Bring-In $0.10 (hand converter (use internet explorer))Seat 1:  $3.70Hero:  $8.05Seat 3:  $7.50Seat 4:  $9.20Seat 5:  $26Seat 6:  $23.65Seat 7:  $5Seat 8:  $0.953rd Street - (1.60 SB)Seat 1:  xx xx 7:spade: ___calls ___foldsHero:  A:club: 8:club: A:heart: ___raisesSeat 3:  xx xx 2:heart: ___brings-in ___callsSeat 4:  xx xx 4:club: ___calls ___callsSeat 5:  xx xx 6:diamond: ___foldsSeat 6:  xx xx 8:heart: ___foldsSeat 7:  xx xx Q:spade: ___calls ___callsSeat 8:  xx xx 7:club: ___calls ___callsYou should almost NEVER slowplay split aces. However, this is probably THE ONLY situation where I think just calling COULD be okay, because with so many limpers and you being in late position, noone is going to fold to a completion bet (except for the idiot in Seat 1), so it might be worth it to just call and disguise the strength of your hand AS LONG AS YOU ARE CAPABLE OF FOLDING ACES WHEN YOU THINK YOU ARE BEAT!!!! However, raising here is perfectly okay as well. Nothing wrong here.4th Street - (7.00 SB)Hero:  A:club: 8:club: A:heart: 6:spade: ___raisesSeat 3:  xx xx 2:heart: 2:club: ___bets ___callsSeat 4:  xx xx 4:club: 9:heart: ___foldsSeat 7:  xx xx Q:spade: 5:heart: ___foldsSeat 8:  xx xx 7:club: Q:heart: ___calls ___calls $0.15 and is all-inI like the raise here, especially at lower limits. If this were 2/4 or higher, I might be more inclined to actually fold (maybe, depending on reads), but without reads, this player can realistically hold any three cards, so I think raising is the right play. Since he just called your raise, I put him on a medium concealed pair, which means you are still behind, but you have lots of outs. However, you can't completely discount three dueces either, something to keep in mine.5th Street - (8.80 BB)Hero:  A:club: 8:club: A:heart: 6:spade: K:heart: ___bets ___callsSeat 3:  xx xx 2:heart: 2:club: K:club: ___checks ___raisesSeat 8:  xx xx 7:club: Q:heart: J:spade: ___all-inAlright, his check-raise here means you are certainly behind, almost without exception. He could have three dueces, two pair, or even Kings full (unlikely, but possible...). I fold to the check-raise here, as you have one pair and no draw. Yes, you COULD still have the best hand, but it seems pretty unlikely. At best, you are probably drawing to two pair, and could really be drawing to two outs. In stud, you have to be prepared to fold big pairs with no draw on fifth street when facing a dangerous board or multiple opponents. In this case, you are behind probably 95 percent of the time, so I muck this.6th Street - (12.80 BB)Hero:  A:club: 8:club: A:heart: 6:spade: K:heart: J:club: ___checksSeat 3:  xx xx 2:heart: 2:club: K:club: T:club: ___checksSeat 8:  xx xx 7:club: Q:heart: J:spade: 8:diamond: ___all-inAlright, you didn't fold of 5th street, so here we are. Why he checked, I have no idea. If he does have three dueces or better, this is a horrible move on his part. It is still possible that he ONLY has one pair of dueces or a middle concealed pair, giving him two pair, and really, I think this is what he has, Eights or Nines in the hole or something. However, you still only have Aces, so a check is probably correct.River - (12.80 BB)Hero:  A:club: 8:club: A:heart: 6:spade: K:heart: J:club: 6:club: ___betsSeat 3:  xx xx 2:heart: 2:club: K:club: T:club: xx ___checks ___callsSeat 8:  xx xx 7:club: Q:heart: J:spade: 8:diamond: xx ___all-inSince you now have Aces Up (two pair), and because your opponent can really have anything, the proper play is to check-call. You might have the best hand, you might not, so check-calling is the most profitable play, in this situation. He probably had 99 in the hole, which is why he called. Total pot: (14.80 BB)New to stud, good/bad?Check on 6th, is that right?

Overall, this hand is played okay. Not great, but not horrible. I still fold to the check-raise on 5th street, as you have one pair with no draw against what is USUALLY going to be three dueces. Of course, he could have been bluffing, so if you have a good read on the player, you can play it differently, but with no read, you should fold here. In this case, however, it appears that you got lucky to hit two pair on the River and were even luckier that the guy was overplaying a smaller two pair. Also, please learn the art of check-calling, it will save you a lot of bets when you are unsure of where you stand in the hand on the River.

[hotbacon 0]

on the river, villain checked to hero, so he had to bet this. He wasn't first to act.

[KowboyKoop 0]

on the river, villain checked to hero, so he had to bet this.  He wasn't first to act.

oops, my bad. Forget my check-call advice, I temporarily forgot that. Betting is correct in this case then. My bad.

[Rocketwadster 0]

Seat 1 is a moron - Calls, then folds after all those calls to your raise. I like the raise on 4th, as it usually gives you some info cheap.Not sure about 5th street. Looks like the inifo we tried to get on 4th street may have been a ruse. I think you have to bet there, and call the raise, which you did.6th baffles me, as I am unsure of why your opponent, after taking the lead on 5th, decides to check. I would also check behinid there like you did.7th I think you have to bet out there, as many lesser two pair will call your bet.Not a bad hand. 8)

[MrNiceGuy 0]

I hate the raise on 4th. Either call or fold (probably call). At this level, vs. an unknown, I think calling down is the best option, since the player could have called the completion from the bring-in with anything. But if villain was a fairly tight player on 3rd, and would only call 3rd with any pair or a 3-flush, I'd just fold. (If villain were very tight, and wouldn't call a completion 3rd with split 2's, then I'd call).To me, the raise on 4th only makes sense if you think it gets you a free card on 5th (which it did, but you didn't take it).If you just call down, you're getting 4-3.5 odds if he bets every street (which he will if he has trips, but might not if he has air or two pair - and in those latter cases, he'll fold if your board improves, so you won't win as many bets when you're behind). And, if he's betting with air, give him the chance to keep betting. He won't fold unless your board improves, so you don't need to be so concerned with giving free cards.He probably doesn't have two small pair, because if he did he should be double-betting 4th, but at this limit you never know. Some twodimes simulations (with the dead cards factored in):cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV6s Ac 8c Ah 224921 44.98 275079 55.02 0 0.00 0.4505s 2c 5d 2h 275079 55.02 224921 44.98 0 0.00 0.550cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV6s Ac 8c Ah 68029 13.61 431971 86.39 0 0.00 0.1362s 2c 5d 2h 431971 86.39 68029 13.61 0 0.00 0.864cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV6s Ac 8c Ah 308457 61.69 191543 38.31 0 0.00 0.6172c 4d 3h 2h 191543 38.31 308457 61.69 0 0.00 0.383

[brando 0]

He made K's and 2's on 5th street and I got lucky and sucked out.Thanks for the analysis, you guys made some great replies.I really enjoy stud, but I don't think I can play it profitably as I can only 1 table and remember the dead cards and such. Meh this sucks I enjoy this game, just not sure I'm good enough to make money at it.

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I really enjoy stud, but I don't think I can play it profitably as I can only 1 table and remember the dead cards and such.

There must program out there that will display dead cards / mucked cards / percentages...oui/non?