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[strategy]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cxMP2 (t1365)MP3 (t1410)CO (t1065)Button (t1520)SB (t1030)Hero (t1105)UTG (t2655)UTG+1 (t2885)MP1 (t1545)Preflop: Hero is BB with J:club:, J:spade:. 2 folds, SB completes, Hero checks.Flop: (t90) 2:club:, J:diamond:, A:club: (3 players)SB checks, Hero bets t150, MP1 folds, SB calls t150.Turn: (t390) 7:club: (2 players)SB checks, Hero checks.River: (t390) 4:diamond: (2 players)SB bets t210, Hero calls t210.Final Pot: t810I put him on a hand and acted accordingly. Was this too passive? Would you have played it differently?

[gobears]

Any reads on SB?Pre-flop, I raise it up at least to 150 with jacks. I would limp with 9's and below but jacks are a bit too good for me to limp with two other players in the pot. It plays out differently if I raise of course.Since you limped pre-flop, I think that I bet less on the flop as your overbet would typically drive out any draws - maybe around 100 would be better as a value bet. Turn card is scary - I would think that SB would bet out if he hit his flush as going for a check/raise there risks you checking behind. I probably would have bet the turn, at least 1/2 the pot (around 200). I bet this more aggressively as someone could be on a weak ace and you want to extract as many chips as you can since it would be very difficult for them to put you on a set since you limped.On the river, by checking behind on the turn, maybe SB thinks that his weak ace is good - I might raise it unless I have a better read that he would play a flush this way, then I would call like you did.

[copernicus]

I definitely read this as a weak Ace more than a flush and agree with gobears all the way.

[zimmer4141]

I would probably lead the turn, then possibly fold if he c/r, depending on how strong your read is. If you check the turn, then I probably also just call the river. I'm not raising when there is a good chance he has a flush.

[strategy]

gobears said:

Any reads on SB?Pre-flop, I raise it up at least to 150 with jacks. I would limp with 9's and below but jacks are a bit too good for me to limp with two other players in the pot. It plays out differently if I raise of course.Since you limped pre-flop, I think that I bet less on the flop as your overbet would typically drive out any draws - maybe around 100 would be better as a value bet. Turn card is scary - I would think that SB would bet out if he hit his flush as going for a check/raise there risks you checking behind. I probably would have bet the turn, at least 1/2 the pot (around 200). I bet this more aggressively as someone could be on a weak ace and you want to extract as many chips as you can since it would be very difficult for them to put you on a set since you limped.On the river, by checking behind on the turn, maybe SB thinks that his weak ace is good - I might raise it unless I have a better read that he would play a flush this way, then I would call like you did.

No reads.PF:I didn't raise because I'm not a fan of building a pot with JJ OOP. The fact that there are only two others in the pot makes raising more reasonable, though. I think I should have raised it, too.FLOP:I don't generally lose a lot of money with hands like this, but I think if I only bet 100 on the flop I'm setting myself up to get busted by a draw. I've always felt like people are apt to draw regardless, so why not help them along by distorting the pot odds completely? I honestly do have at least one or two hands a day where I will jam 1200 into a pot of 600 and get called by a guy with a flush or straight draw with one card to come.TURN:I had position and a chance to fill up on the river and bust him if he's laying back on a flush. I also get him to fire out on the river with a bunch of hands that I can beat. IMO, checking the turn has all the upside in the world, whereas betting can get you in serious trouble if you're check-raised. Are you letting this hand go if he check-raises all in?RIVER:I don't know. Calling was the safest option, but I kind of wonder if I get him to put in a lot more of his stack with hands like two pair or a lower set if I raise it.For whatever reason, I played the hand like I knew he had hit a flush on the turn, but I had no read. Overall, I do think I left some chips on the table, but I was drunk and playing five of these at the same time (the stars $20 20 table sit and gos). The guy happened to have 3c4c, which is one of those hands that wouldn't have been out there fishing around if I had raised preflop.