Breaking Liberty 0 Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is UTG with [Js], [Ts]. Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks.Flop: (8 SB) [Tc], [Th], [Jd] (8 players)SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP3 bets, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds, Hero calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds.Turn: (6 BB) [As] (4 players)SB checks, Hero checks, CO raises, Hero calls.River: (13.50 BB) [2s] (3 players)Hero bets, Hero calls.Final Pot: 17.50 BBDid I do anything wrong? Link to post Share on other sites
GoCryWolfe 0 Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 I think my only question is why you didn't 3-bet? No raises preflop, so you can most likely count out AA or JJ... which are the only hands that beat you... unless I'm missing something? Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 Cap turn.3-bet / call Cap on RiverI lead turn... getting checked thru on a card that may slow others down would suck.I lost Boat vs Boat twice in one day early in my online days ( uh..like 6 months ago) Took me a long time to recover. Value bet these like crazy. Sometimes you lose.Passivity on flop may be good idea..not really ready to comment on that. Link to post Share on other sites
Breaking Liberty 0 Posted October 21, 2005 Author Share Posted October 21, 2005 I lost Boat vs Boat twice in one day early in my online days ( uh..like 6 months ago) Took me a long time to recover. Value bet these like crazy. Sometimes you lose.Among many of my disastrous hands last night, was loosing a huge pot with flopped trips to someone who turned their two outer with aces against me. That is why I slowed down. I wish I hadn't. Still recovering from that hand. Link to post Share on other sites
TJ_Eckleburg 0 Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 Fold preflop. As a rule of thumb, UTG calls should be pretty much with pocket pairs only.JTs is a late position only hand... and it's THE most overplayed hand in limit hold'em. I know it's sexy and I know it makes 4 nut straights... but just trust me when I say it costs more than it's worth.Cap turn cap river. You have a boat!!! You'll make more money paying off overboats and by c0ck-slapping everyone that caps you with goofy stuff, which will happen at .50/1. Link to post Share on other sites
screech 0 Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 Fold preflop. As a rule of thumb, UTG calls should be pretty much with pocket pairs only. Â JTs is a late position only hand... and it's THE most overplayed hand in limit hold'em. I know it's sexy and I know it makes 4 nut straights... but just trust me when I say it costs more than it's worth.This hand is very playable in UTG in loose-passive games. I would rather limp UTG with JTs that 22.Liberty,You should raise this flop. Calling the flop, and then checking the turn is too dangerous. The turn may get checked through. Raise the flop. Lead the turn. Don't stop raising. The only hands that beat you are JJ and AA. You are more likely to be up againsts Tx/KQ. Link to post Share on other sites
hotbacon 0 Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 Just lead the freakin flop. You have monstrous equity, and having it checked through would suck. The flop connects, so gutshots and other garbage is calling, and Tx is raising. Bet the flop, and keep your mouse on the raise button. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 Fold preflop. As a rule of thumb, UTG calls should be pretty much with pocket pairs only.JTs is a late position only hand... and it's THE most overplayed hand in limit hold'em. I know it's sexy and I know it makes 4 nut straights... but just trust me when I say it costs more than it's worth.that's bad advice.surprisingly coming from you. Link to post Share on other sites
TJ_Eckleburg 0 Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 To clarify my position...Most of the .50/1 tables I play are tighter than I would like, and the loose tables are WAY loose. It tends to be one or the other.If the table is the former, then limping JTs UTG is bad.I can see situations and tables where it's not as bad and even good to limp JTs UTG.I just hate how overplayed it is in a general sort of way, and it DOES play much better in late position rather than early position.But you're right. The "as a general rule only limp pairs UTG" is bad advice. I forgot about suited aces and some other stuff. I just also really hate limping under the gun, and the only hands I find myself consistently doing that with are 55 and stuff. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 go against the bible at yuor own risk. :wink: It's playable in the tightest games you see on PP .5/1 Link to post Share on other sites
Canada 0 Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 It's playable in the tightest games you see on PP .5/1 Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 check-raise this flop. look at all those betters between you - they're all calling one extra bet, and you'll price them in for whatever gutshot crap they're going for. don't worry about deception - worry about getting as many freakin bets in as possible.and definitely raise this river. Link to post Share on other sites
Swift_Psycho 1 Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 I like a flop check/raise here. Lead the turn and then most of the time I'm capping all the way after that. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 If you c/r flop aren't you losing a lot of action on the turn?I dont like c/r the flop at all.We have a monster, I'd rather wait to be bet into on turn.If turn happens to get checked thru..that would seriously suck..but it's a risk I'd take. Link to post Share on other sites
PrtyPSux 0 Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 cap the turn imo Link to post Share on other sites
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