Breaking Liberty 0 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is CO with [7s], [8s]. 2 folds, BB calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls.Flop: (12 SB) [5s], [6s], [5h] (6 players)SB bets, SB calls, BB calls, MP1 calls.Turn: (10 BB) [Qc] (4 players)SB checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets, SB folds, BB calls, MP1 folds.River: (12 BB) [Ks] (2 players)BB bets? Link to post Share on other sites
TJ_Eckleburg 0 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 I value-call here.Raising is win none/lose two. Calling might induce other calls... and there's a TON out there that beats you for him waking up here. Link to post Share on other sites
screech 0 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 I value-call here.Raising is win none/lose two. Calling might induce other calls... and there's a TON out there that beats you for him waking up here.TJ, the pot is HU.This is a tough one. All BB has done so far is call-call-call.It seems like he has a flush, but he could have also been slowplaying trips/fullhouse.He could also be bluffing, in which case he won't call a raise. I also doubt he's betting a K or Q because he has to fear that you have at trips.Since his most likely hand is a flush, and since you are behind to most of his flush combos, I think you should simply call here. Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 call here.he could be ahead with a full house or higher flush, or just bet/folding (although he'll obviously call a raise...donk!) with a king, or bluffing a miss.i think you get reraised here too often though, so just call instead.more importantly though, check that turn! somewhat unlikely you're winning this hand without a showdown, so take that free card that you correctly bought.cheers,daniel Link to post Share on other sites
rog 0 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Call. No better hand folds to a raise, and no worse hand calls. 3-bet would be a disaster. Link to post Share on other sites
TJ_Eckleburg 0 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 TJ, the pot is HU. This is a tough one. All BB has done so far is call-call-call.I don't know if it's correct poker terminology, but by "win none/lose two" here, I mean if we raise, worse hands have a good chance of folding, and better hands raise, so we probably don't get a 2nd BB on the river and if we get 3-bet, we're horse-fucked.Too much out there to beat us, someone woke up on a card that could have improved someone better than us... and a boat is still out there.Just call. Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 sorry guys - but even if this guy is 'bluffing' with a king or a queen, and they might play it this way at these limits, they aren't folding to a raise. just doesn't happen more than once in a blue moon at these limits. at any reasonable limit though, i think the above advice is correct.this isn't a situation where no worse hand will call a raise. i just think that given the bet, there are about as many hands beating you as you are beating, and several of the hands ahead of you will reraise, so you should smooth-call here.daniel Link to post Share on other sites
zimmer4141 0 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 I think I would raise here. At this limits, I wouldn't be surprised at all if he called all that way with AK or KQ or something. Your flush is probably good more often than not, and you want to extract value. Link to post Share on other sites
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