simple situation, i'm kind of braindead right now

[akishore 0]

3/6 fivei'm SB with K K .UTG limps, CO raises, Button folds, i three-bet, BB folds, UTG cold-calls, CO calls.UTG is very loose passive, he's a chaser. don't have specific numbers.CO is new, but seems average (traces of TAG, traces of TPP).(10 SB) J 9 4 i bet, UTG calls, CO raises, i call, UTG calls.(8 BB) 6 i check, UTG checks, CO bets, i raise, UTG cold-calls, CO calls.(14 BB) K i ...so, UTG is very straightforward. he bets when he has it generally (he even raised my bet with a flopped boat with 9-2 when the board was 9-2-2 and he was directly on my left).so far, i've put CO on a hand that i beat... anything from AJ to KJ to QQ to JJ to TT, whatever. i don't really care much about him.the thing is, i've been putting UTG on either any pair (e.g. he's calling down) or a draw. the best two draws would be a spade draw that missed (he's folding anyway) or a straight draw with Q-10 that got there.what is my action?i want to value bet against CO but need to know if UTG hit his draw.sorry, i'm feeling braindead.aseem

[Pancake407 0]

sorry aseem, i cant help you..I look to YOU for advice, lol..I would bet/call personally..but im a donk.

[akishore 0]

well, if i check, i find out for the cheapest price is UTG hit his draw.but, CO might check behind if UTG missed.at the time, i didn't think UTG bluffed rivers on missed draws.if i bet, UTG would raise if he hit, which might make CO fold a worse hand (lose value from that) and make me pay two bets to pay off UTG. i could bet/fold, but personally i think a set of kings is a little too damn strong for that. no, in fact, bet/folding here is completely insane.so do i check/raise or bet out? that's what i'm confused about.aseem

[speedz99 145]

Make it easy on yourself and bet/call a UTG raise. I think it's silly to be so afraid of Q10 that you would miss a value bet.

[Mattnxtc 0]

c/r isnt the wisest since there is a draw out there if they held q10...imo you should defiantly bet out..and then just call the raise if there is one. theres only one hand your worried about

[rog 0]

Of all the hands you have UTG on, there's only 1 you need to worry about. I'd bet out. Strictly from the numbers, he's far more likely to have a flush draw than Q-10, not to mention the possibility of a pair.

[thecamelot 0]

sorry aseem, i cant help you..I look to YOU for advice, lol..I would bet/call personally..but im a donk.

i think a bet-call is the best line here... if he's got it he's got it, but if not i think you're missing on a lot of value from both players

[akishore 0]

ok, thanks.this is obvious, right? i'm just tired, i think.anyway, bet is what i did. UTG folded, and CO raised, i three-bet, he capped.KJ no good!yessssss...aseem

[Actuary 3]

I must be, too.Why aren't you 3-betting the flop?Would UTG call getting 5.5:1 immediate chasing a Str8 with 2-2 card flushes out there? I guess QT is possible.I'd lead the river.and reluctantly call one back.

[akishore 0]

I must be, too.Why aren't you 3-betting the flop?Would UTG call getting 5.5:1 immediate chasing a Str8 with 2-2 card flushes out there?  I guess QT    is possible.I'd lead the river.and reluctantly call one back.

i chose not to three-bet the flop because i felt strongly that CO had a pair and would bet when checked to 100% of the time on the turn, and that UTG had some draw, and i wanted to protect my hand from his possible gutshots and whatnot.as a side benefit--and i'm not sure if this reasoning is flawed--after i checked the turn, if UTG bet out, i would be quite sure that i was beat at the time (since he was very straightforwardly passive), and calling down would be cheaper.aseem