NortonFan 0 Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 Spoilers.I just got done watching this movie and wow. The part where the little girl is "shot" is one of the most powerful scenes I think ever. This movie is really really a masterpiece. Just from seeing this movie once its in my top 10.Discuss. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 Never heard of it, and lookin for a good movie to purchase.Worth a buy or should I just rent?What kind of movie is it? Who's in it? etc. etc. Link to post Share on other sites
NortonFan 0 Posted October 12, 2005 Author Share Posted October 12, 2005 Never heard of it, and lookin for a good movie to purchase.Worth a buy or should I just rent?What kind of movie is it? Who's in it? etc. etc.Definitely rent it if you have never seen if before, but one you see it 89% of the time your going to buy it. Its one of those movies where peoples lifes entertwine. So like 5 stories end up becoming one. Ryan Phillipe, Sandra Bullock, Don Cheadle, Matt Dillion, Terrence Howard, Ludacris, Thandie Newton, Larenz Tate and a whole Plethra of people. But really, This movie is incredible. Link to post Share on other sites
urza75 0 Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 Thought Crash was a movie about the sexual fantasy of car crashes....Am i thinking of the wrong movie? Link to post Share on other sites
NortonFan 0 Posted October 12, 2005 Author Share Posted October 12, 2005 Thought Crash was a movie about the sexual fantasy of car crashes....Am i thinking of the wrong movie?You tried and failed. Please preview posts before you hit submit. Link to post Share on other sites
urza75 0 Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 Thought Crash was a movie about the sexual fantasy of car crashes....Am i thinking of the wrong movie?You tried and failed. Please preview posts before you hit submit.Tried and failed what? Link to post Share on other sites
urza75 0 Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 It appears you mean http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0375679/and i thought you meanthttp://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115964/Sorry i stand corrected, Shows how far behind England is to America in when films are released....Either that or i just didn't know it came out lol Link to post Share on other sites
NortonFan 0 Posted October 12, 2005 Author Share Posted October 12, 2005 It appears you mean  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0375679/and i thought you meanthttp://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115964/Sorry i stand corrected, Shows how far behind England is to America in when films are released....Either than or i just didn't know it came out lolWow.... I thought you were just trying to be sarcastic or funny. Lmao.. They actually have a movie about that? Link to post Share on other sites
urza75 0 Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 It appears you mean  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0375679/and i thought you meanthttp://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115964/Sorry i stand corrected, Shows how far behind England is to America in when films are released....Either than or i just didn't know it came out lolWow.... I thought you were just trying to be sarcastic or funny. Lmao.. They actually have a movie about that?Yeah caused a big out roar when it was released n England...think it was even banned for a time. Link to post Share on other sites
krup24 0 Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 She had to give her daddy the magic cloak.Very Very good movie.I collect DVDs so I purchased this one based on cast and comments on the DVD since I had never heard of it.Definitely a solid A (movie grade) Link to post Share on other sites
NortonFan 0 Posted October 12, 2005 Author Share Posted October 12, 2005 Theres some good actors in it, I might have to check this out. Link to post Share on other sites
Jadaki 1 Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 Great movie, a frightnigly realistic look at how people treat each other. Link to post Share on other sites
WasaMaNG 0 Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 awesome movie...i like the part where the black guy goes apeshit on the cops Link to post Share on other sites
garamond10pt 0 Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 The movie was very well-acted and directed, but anything from deep or insightful. The best description I read for it was "liberal superstition", upper-middle class guilt condensed into movie form. There are much much much better movies that make you actually think about the nature of race and racism instead of patronizing you that "racism is bad". Link to post Share on other sites
mk 11 Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 The movie was very well-acted and directed, but anything from deep or insightful. Â The best description I read for it was "liberal superstition", upper-middle class guilt condensed into movie form. Â There are much much much better movies that make you actually think about the nature of race and racism instead of patronizing you that "racism is bad".Um, it's not patronizing if it's an objective fact. Link to post Share on other sites
BilliardsBoy 0 Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 The movie was very well-acted and directed, but anything from deep or insightful. Â The best description I read for it was "liberal superstition", upper-middle class guilt condensed into movie form. Â There are much much much better movies that make you actually think about the nature of race and racism instead of patronizing you that "racism is bad".Um, it's not patronizing if it's an objective fact.I actually agree with garamond. I too liked the movie, lots of great actors doing great acting. The plot took many twists and turns, and came together pretty well at the end. I did think that it was too dark overall in that there was a complete lack of happinesss or normalcy in the movie, which as the movie progresses makes it hard to swallow. I think a few spots of light in the movie would have been good for the endurance of the viewer.As far as race and racism, two very important and dominating themes of the movie, I too thought it was an overblown guilt trip. From the start of the film, I was surprised at the open and blantant racism that every character showed. It is my contention that racism in America and everywhere is and has been dying for quite some time, so the overuse of it here seemed, well, unreal. The idea that the movie "patronizes you" is true, it is much more compelling and clever when a movie can send that message through the sorrowful fall and destruction of characters. It was almost PBS how the ppl at the end saw the error of their ways and overcame their previous misconceptions. I think garamond is pretty dead-on frankly.These points though are like the difference between a great and a groundbreaking film. I'd still recommend this movie, really a good viewing, especially if you can keep track of what is going on (prepare to think). Not quite incredible, but pretty close. Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 It appears you mean  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0375679/and i thought you meanthttp://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115964/Sorry i stand corrected, Shows how far behind England is to America in when films are released....Either than or i just didn't know it came out lolWow.... I thought you were just trying to be sarcastic or funny. Lmao.. They actually have a movie about that?It is an f'ing weird movie. Don't watch it. People purposely get into car accidents because they get off on them. One particularly disturbing scene involves penetration of a flesh wound. Don't watch it.Daniel Link to post Share on other sites
urza75 0 Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 It appears you mean  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0375679/and i thought you meanthttp://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115964/Sorry i stand corrected, Shows how far behind England is to America in when films are released....Either than or i just didn't know it came out lolWow.... I thought you were just trying to be sarcastic or funny. Lmao.. They actually have a movie about that?It is an f'ing weird movie. Don't watch it. People purposely get into car accidents because they get off on them. One particularly disturbing scene involves penetration of a flesh wound. Don't watch it.DanielNever seen it but heard all about it....Yeah im staying away. Link to post Share on other sites
Jadaki 1 Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 As far as race and racism, two very important and dominating themes of the movie, I too thought it was an overblown guilt trip. Â From the start of the film, I was surprised at the open and blantant racism that every character showed. It is my contention that racism in America and everywhere is and has been dying for quite some time, so the overuse of it here seemed, well, unreal. You should come walk through a mall with me and my interracial children and I will show you just how much it still exists. Crash does an excelent job of showing how peoples fears and prejeduces play parts on both sides of the fence. Racism is not a one way street, and is still very predominant throughout our society. Link to post Share on other sites
BilliardsBoy 0 Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 and is still very predominant throughout our society.I go to the Gallery in Center City, Philadelphia, so don't assume that I have no idea what it's like in a diverse setting.Obviously there is still racism in this country, but its mostly subtle and underlying. It's not like it was 50 years ago where minorities couldn't ride the bus, and not like it was 15 years ago when a minority sitcom was doomed for failure, and it's not like it's portrayed in this movie where every conversation and action of the characters is dictated by rac.ist thoughts. I mean, Don has fantastic sex with that one chick and afterwards has to rant and rave about her latin heritage. Give me a break man, you think this movie is accurate? Thoughts like these exist, and I'm sure that the most accurate real life portrayal was that of Sandra B., but every line of every character seemed to fall back on rac.ist ideals.I understand that the purpose of the movie was to bring up this underlying tone in society, but I feel that it was overdone. Howabout you come to MY mall and watch as no one really gives a damn about what everyones skin looks like. And then come to King of Prussia and see how even there no one really gives a damn. If your interracial kids have had problems before, I'm truely sorry for that, but day by day, year by year, the attitudes of people that your kids witness is tolerated less and less.If anything, the better, more subtle problem brought up in this film is the separation and skeptism by the different classes. To me, THIS was the more compelling view on society, not the over-the-top racism with the Cosby ending. Link to post Share on other sites
Jadaki 1 Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 How about you come to MY mall and watch as no one really gives a damn about what everyones skin looks likeI used to think the same way you do, till I experienced it first hand. It's nice to think that, but since I doubt you can read everyones mind, I guess we can agree to disagree here.Sure there is no back of the bus/cross burnings/lynchings going on these days, but there is plenty of other forms of racism, just because you don't experience them does not mean they do not exist. Anyway, Crash is still a good movie. Link to post Share on other sites
mk 11 Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 How about you come to MY mall and watch as no one really gives a damn about what everyones skin looks likeSure there is no back of the bus/cross burnings/lynchings going on these days, but there is plenty of other forms of racism, just because you don't experience them does not mean they do not exist. Anyway, Crash is still a good movie.Um, 2 words: James Byrd? Link to post Share on other sites
Jadaki 1 Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 Sorry, havent' watched the news lately but I am guessing thats the guy who the cops beat the crap out of the other day? If not sorry, the name does not ring a bell and I don't want to google it right now.Police brutality is one example of racism that currently exists, but apparently not in Billiards happy little corner of the universe.*Edit*Ok I looked that up, and I remember the case now. Link to post Share on other sites
mk 11 Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Byrd_JrJames Byrd, Jr. was an African-American murdered in a 1998 hate crime by Shawn Allen Berry, Lawrence Russel Brewer, and John William King, in Jasper, Texas.The MurderByrd was tied to a pickup truck with a chain and dragged about three miles. An autopsy suggested that Byrd was alive for much of the dragging and died only after his right arm and head were severed when his body hit a culvert.Reaction to the murderByrd's murder was strongly condemned by Jesse Jackson and the Martin Luther King Center as an act of vicious racism and focused national attention on the prevalence of white supremacist prison gangs. The three defendants, who were later tried and convicted for the murder, had allegedly joined such gangs while imprisoned in Texas. His family created the James Byrd Foundation for Racial Healing after his death. Link to post Share on other sites
Jadaki 1 Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 My point being that these things are not a normal occurance like they used to be. for the most part, racism is played out in different forms now that are "usually" not as brutal. Link to post Share on other sites
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