spewage?

[thecamelot 0]

How bad was the C/r on the flop? I think turn call is OK getting 9:1 to make the gutshot and implied odds from the flop bettor.Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cxPreflop: Hero is SB with J:heart:, K:heart:. UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, 4 folds, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, CO calls.Flop: (10 SB) A:heart:, 8:diamond:, 2:club: (5 players)Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero calls.Turn: (8 BB) Q:spade: (2 players)Hero checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero calls.River: (10 BB) K:diamond: (2 players)Hero checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero calls.Final Pot: 12 BB

[custom36 5]

Preflop raise = badFlop check/raise = badTurn call = badRiver call = badWow.The turn call is bad because you're 10-1 to hit your draw and you're getting 9-1 in the pot.The river call is bad because I really don't see your paired K with a J kicker holding up against all of that aggression. Though, the pot may be so big that it warrants a call.

[thecamelot 0]

Preflop raise = bad

This is the only part of the hand I thought was ok. SSHE recommend raising KJs from the SB, what makes it incorrect here?

Flop check/raise = bad

This i know?

Turn call = bad

Can't make up the extra bet on the river from the clear agressor if the draw hits?I know this was played terribly, which is why I posted it.

[goose 0]

pf raise is alright I think.fold the flop... if you really want to do the whole c/r thing, go ahead, but fold to the 3-bet at least. On the turn you're most likely calling for the gutshot, I don't give you credit for any pair outs... fold the turn. ugly.

[avsfan 0]

I would raise that preflop too. fwiw. Your on your own with the rest... .

[thecamelot 0]

I would raise that preflop too. fwiw. Your on your own with the rest... .

Yeah... Good, so I'm not off there...The rest wasn't something I'd normally do... Or.. Ever again either

[akishore 0]

ok, try to be objective aseem.why in the world did you make that turn call?9-to-1? implied odds?what??you're 10.5-to-1 against. round up. 11-to-1.think you can make two bets every time a 10 hits?please, son. step away from the car.time for sleep, i'm tired.good night!aseem

[Sysvr4 0]

Raising or not PF is close, but in the SB I err on the side of caution. I fold the flop. Jeff

[Briguy 0]

The preflop raise against so many limpers is for value, but it's probably close. In order to continue on the flop, you really need to hit TP or a decent draw. Two undercards and two BD draws is kinda not the flop you wanted, to put it mildly.

[rog 0]

I like the PF raise. Raising out of the blinds can only be for value with 3 in the pot already, and BB likely to come along. I think KJs has an equity edge against 3 limping hands and 1 random hand. The flop is maniacal. No pair, no over, and no draw. You have no hand. What is a raise supposed to accomplish? That is an easy fold for me.

[thecamelot 0]

Ok, so PF is okay then, which is what I thought.I knew as I was doing it the rest was maniacal, but still pulled it off. Is this OK for advertising at the beginning of a session? Several people I'm sure buddy listed me off of that one - but were all obviously waiting for me to do it again...Again, I've never made a play this crazy and don't plan on it again.

[Actuary 3]

fold River, K is not an out. (ok..if read he's agg with crap..but u are new to table)thus, fold turn because you don't have odds implied or otherwise to draw to 4 cardsthus fold the flop beucause your BD draws are inadequateI'm late on this..but just wanted to kick you again. :-)

[thecamelot 0]

heh, thx Actuary... I think the kicking will help, so keep it up. (honestly)but ok, not only am i never posting a hand like that again, i'm never doing it again. lesson learned,... i guess

[avsfan 0]

If you checked and then called one bet looking for another heart on the turn. That could be fun sometimes. Especially with lots of callers. :wink: p.s. show me a turn heart and I just may show you a check raise.

[Briguy 0]

I find that I get all the advertising I need from hands I play correctly. The vast majority of SS players don't understand that I'm often correct to call down and lose with TPTK in a large pot, or to value raise with a big draw against a large field, only to fold on the river when my draw misses.