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I was looking at my Aggression factor the other day, and it is suprisingly low. I wonder if it is from the lack of recorded hands...but I can't help to wonder. My pre-flop raise percent is 7.15% (could be higher)...and my pre-flop aggression factor is an insulting 0.54! On the flop it's 2.89, the turn it's 2.39, and on the river it's 1.14.Theses stats lead me to believe I should start raising hands like K :D T :) after 4+ people limp in; or QJs, and JTs...all good drawing hands, all fairly strong. I think I should try to build up more pots. Maybe even raise 98s after 6+ players limp. Is this a correct assumtion?Also, I feel like I value bet the river quite often...even when it feels uncomfortable...but 1.14 seems low. Am I missing out on too many bets on the river?FYI, this is a record of only 4,000 hands. With 12,000 hands recored at pokerstars at the $1/$2 limits my aggression stats looked almost the same.Preflop raise percent is 8.89%Aggression factor:pre-flop=0.69flop=3.66turn=3.00river=1.65My aggression on the flop and turn looks good, but I seem passive pre-flop and on the river...Opinions please.

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Preflop raise percent is 8.89%Aggression factor:pre-flop=0.69flop=3.66turn=3.00river=1.65My aggression on the flop and turn looks good, but I seem passive pre-flop and on the river...Opinions please.
Never heard these terms before. Please explain them.8.89% preplop raise percentage. Does that mean you raise on 8.89% of the hands you are dealt or 8.89% of hands where you enter the pot?Preflop aggression factor? What's the range for this number? Is the range the same for the flop, turn, and river?
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Of the hands that I see, 8.98% I raise. I play about 20% of the hands I see and raise half of them.The aggression factor is the same for all streets. So obviously I play more passive pre-flop and on the river...this may be due to loose/passive games where I can call with marginal hands alot and check/calling draws to he river. However, I strongly believe I should raise more pre-flop and value bet more on the river.

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Of the hands that I see, 8.98% I raise. I play about 20% of the hands I see and raise half of them.
I need to bring something up here...if you only play 20% of hands (10-handed)...what hands are you playing? I just don't understand how people can play this small amount of hands. I mean at .5/1, you can usually see a flop for .5 BB's. If you play the blinds alone, you are seeing 20%. I almost always call in the SB, but I will fold to a raise. i'll even fold to a raise in the BB if I've got rags. I mean typically, I'm going to play both blinds, as well as 1-2 other hands of the 8 free hands. By having your blinds as such a high % of the hands you play, you are limiting yourself to playing hands that are average. Am I off here? Let me know what your reasoning is WRTO. I am seeing like 30% of the flops if I 3-table (10-handed). I really don't think it's possible for me to see less than 30% of the flops.And if you only feel comfortable playing 20% of hands, I certainly don't think you should be raising nearly half of them. That seems like an awful lot.
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Preflop raise percent is 8.89%Aggression factor:pre-flop=0.69flop=3.66turn=3.00river=1.65My aggression on the flop and turn looks good, but I seem passive pre-flop and on the river...Opinions please.
Never heard these terms before. Please explain them.8.89% preplop raise percentage. Does that mean you raise on 8.89% of the hands you are dealt or 8.89% of hands where you enter the pot?Preflop aggression factor? What's the range for this number? Is the range the same for the flop, turn, and river?
Edit for clarification:Aggression factor is calculated by (Raise% + Bet%)/(Call%).
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I'm not sure if you want to start raising with hands like QJ or K10. Obviously doing it once in a while to shake things up isn't a bad idea but I wouldn't make it a constant of your game. It could be that you haven't had many premium hands over that time? I'm not sure? One thought is, how aggressive are you with a premium hand when someone has raised in front of you? Maybe start three betting or capping pots with big hands.Just a thought.

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I'm not sure if you want to start raising with hands like QJ or K10.  Obviously doing it once in a while to shake things up isn't a bad idea but I wouldn't make it a constant of your game.  It could be that you haven't had many premium hands over that time? I'm not sure?  One thought is, how aggressive are you with a premium hand when someone has raised in front of you?  Maybe start three betting or capping pots with big hands.Just a thought.
I do that :-) late positin I need to start raising big suited connectors...QJs and KTs. Especially if there are alot of limpers.
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I disagree with raising K10 suited, but 910, j10,QJ suited are fine to raise with. K 10 seems to hit a lot for me, but it's still a vulnerable hand. Limpers likely have a better hand than K 10 if you got 5 or 6 players in the pot. What happens when you flop a K or a 10? You can't exacly know it's good because KQ, KJ has you beat if your K hits, A10 has you beat if you hit your 10. Your really only drawing to a straight or a flush in this instance. It's still a playable hand from late position, but I just don't believe it's strong enough to raise with, unless it's a weak table where they will check to the raiser.

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