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[leduke]

Hello everybody, I'm new in poker and now i'm actually searching for a tips of strategy and how to manage the bankroll. (when i sit down to play a poker i always find myself in loosing big money) I've found interesting poker rule of managing bankroll - 10% rule. (http://www.ipfpoker....ur-bankroll-/21)Does anyone uses it? and how you say yourself - "stop playing today!" Could you give me some advice in here?

[JFarrell20]

I'd say you need 100-150 times the Big Bet to sit at a limit table. Have a bankroll of 150 to play .5/1Do not play 1/2 until you have 300. And are consistently winning over 1 big bet per hour at .5/1.Limit your losses in a day to 30 big bets (courtesy of Howard Lederer). The game will be there tomorrow. Do not feel like you have to win back.Set a time limit for you to play (courtesty of Negreanu). Play 8 hours... leave after 8 hours whether you are up or down. Play the hours, not the results.Keep posting on and trolling this forum, you will learn a lot.Good luck!

[MrConceit]

JFarrell20 said:

I'd say you need 100-150 times the Big Bet to sit at a limit table.  Have a bankroll of 150 to play .5/1Do not play 1/2 until you have 300.  And are consistently winning over 1 big bet per hour at .5/1.Limit your losses in a day to 30 big bets (courtesy of Howard Lederer).  The game will be there tomorrow.  Do not feel like you have to win back.Set a time limit for you to play (courtesty of Negreanu).  Play 8 hours... leave after 8 hours whether you are up or down.  Play the hours, not the results.Keep posting on and trolling this forum, you will learn a lot.Good luck!

In regards to starter of the threat: I dunno about that 10 percent rule. If you actual consider what it means it's kinda funky. So if I have 9k for playing 15/30, (300BB), I need to stop whenever I lose 900 bucks? A 30BB swing is nothing huge. I agree you shouldn't be MANIC about trying to get back to even, but if you have played 2 hours, are playing well and/or see lots of fish to play against, I'd stick to the Negreanu type "rule" of playing your hours (perhaps 8 hours planned). It's only if it's affecting you mentally that you need to quit if you lose X amount. Just change tables (online) if you think people are taking shots at you because you have lost a lot of hands in a row there.A bankroll of only 150 BB (150 bucks for .5/1) is kinda on the low side. It's fine if you are able to move down in limits if you hit 100, but that's hard to do if you were talking about PP as .5/1 is the lowest limit possible. You really want at least 200 in general. But yeah, if he's very willing to move back down (many people aren't), then the 150BB is ok (for like 1/2) if you do move down when you lose like 50 BB.I would find it difficult to try to follow both Lederer's advice and Negreanu's. Losing 30 BB in a single day while playing online (especially if you do multiple tables) is nothing. Was his 30BB recommendation for online also, or just for live? It makes more sense for live imo.

[JFarrell20]

Well I don't know. Lederer is old school so he may still think in terms of B&M rooms. But I'm sure he's talking about online as well.

[wrto4556]

You should have 300xbb(big bet) to play...so $300 to play at .50/1As for stop losses and such, there are two basic schools of thought:1) Stop playing if you have lost 30bb or 10% of your bankroll...it's the same thing! 300bbx.10=30.2) Do not stop, because as long as your sitting at a table you are theoretically making money.I fall under #2 because I know that I make 2-3 BB/hr. No matter if I'm losing this session or not. Like daniel said in one of his articles, "play the hours not the results". In that article someone asked him..."how much have you made today". and he looks at the clock and sais something like "I'm up $160" when really he has like $500 profit in front of him. hours. Not results.Now, if you are unable to control your emotions after you lose a few big pots, then you should by all means follow a stop loss. 10% or 30bb is recommended. Because if you are tilting you can go into a downward spiral and lose alot of money.Wichever floats your boat...neither are wrong, but I think #2 is more correct. :-) One stop loss I do follow, is if I lose 1/3 of my BR I will drop down a limit. So if I'm playing .50/1 and lose $100, I will drop down to .25/.50.Good luck

[leduke]

Thank You all guys , i think i'm starting to get something