top pair good kicker.

[Binbs 0]

** Game ID 520806316 starting - 2005-10-01 03:26:35** Saarlouis [Hold 'em] (0.50|1.00 No Limit - Cash Game) Real Money- SLOWSTEVE sitting in seat 2 with $136.82- Binbs sitting in seat 3 with $94.50 [Dealer]- klangklang sitting in seat 5 with $80.90- EatYaa sitting in seat 6 with $122.00klangklang posted the small blind - $0.50EatYaa posted the big blind - $1.00** Dealing card to Binbs: Jack , King SLOWSTEVE called - $1.00Binbs raised - $4.00klangklang foldedEatYaa foldedSLOWSTEVE called - $4.00** Dealing the flop: 5 , Jack , 4 SLOWSTEVE checkedBinbs bet - $4.00SLOWSTEVE called - $4.00** Dealing the turn: 6 SLOWSTEVE checkedBinbs bet - $10.00SLOWSTEVE called - $10.00** Dealing the river: 4 SLOWSTEVE bet - $18.00Binbs folded

[jayistheman 0]

i hate the flop bet... gotta bet way more than that.

[jayboogie 0]

There's really no point of posting a hand like this without reads. This situation is all about reads, sometimes you call, sometimes you fold, it's all read dependent.Also, bet generally about 3/4 of the pot or so on the flop.

[pokerplayer24 0]

How can you fold this river. In my mind a 4 is about as safe a card as it gets. getting 3:1 to call too. Not to be an ass but every hand you post seems to show you playing absurdly weak.

[Binbs 0]

Im posting for input so I can improve my play. Maybe my weakness is that at times I play weak.I play aggressively as well, but those hands I havent posted. I post hands where I feel that I might have made a mistake so I can learn from it.In this hand, the fact that he calls all the way without a raise, slemms like a trap to me.The big bet at the end had me thinking that he had hit trips on the turn. I would like opinions on what you guys think the opponent had.Unfortunately I do not have any reads on this opponent as I had just sat down to play.

[pokerplayer24 0]

In relation to the size of the pot the bet isnt that big. He could easily have a weaker jack or a mid pocket pair. I highly doubt he called your bets all the way with the 4 and really very few hands beat you in this situation. Unless he limp called with a hand like AJ. Or flopped a set with a low pp.

[econ_tim 0]

this hand is too tightyour preflop raise is goodafter that you should bet around $8 on the flopif you still think your hand is good on the turn, bet more than $10i think the river bet is small enough to call

[bdc30 0]

Not a big fan of the preflop raise,but since you made it, you haveto bet out more on this flop.Minimum $8-10.

[econ_tim 0]

Not a big fan of the preflop raise

it's four handed and he's the button, i think the raise is fine

[Abbaddabba 0]

cancel that first partThat half-pot bet at the end makes me think he has a mid kicker jack and wants to get value from worse hands that will check behind. By betting half the pot, he's also saving value from stronger jacks or overpairs who _wont_ raise because of the 4 scare card, if we assume that he'd call their river bet which would probably be bigger than $18.