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[akishore]

3/6 six maxbutton is a loose maniac type.bb is a loose/aggressive-passive gambler.i'm cutoff with A J, suits irrelevant.folds to me, i open, button cold-calls, sb folds, bb three-bets, i call, button calls.(9 SB) A K 6bb bets, i CALL (?????), button calls.(6 BB) 2bb checks, i bet (right??), button raises, bb folds, i call.(10 BB) Ai check-call... (?????)am i missing value??is this too weak/tight?is this just right??aseem

[screech]

I'd raise the flop. Button can profitably call here with a gutshot/or a lower pair (provided it's not a pp).Turn is good.I don't know the best course of action on the river.

[Kendren]

Maybe a bet/call on the river, and yes, I think you raise that flop. but my AJ died a screaming, flaming death last night to AQ in this similar situation, so what do I know.

[WonderfulSplash]

Raise the flop. I bet/call the river against a maniac.

[akishore]

button's range of hands way exceeds a gutshot. he has 9-high here a lot of times.i'm not convinced at all that a flop raise is best.aseem

[shpaget]

raise flop.turn looks good.bet/call river.If the button called preflop with A2s or 22, oh well....K2s is probably more likely.Then again, I've seen a lot of strange AK calls preflop lately, so you never know.

[WonderfulSplash]

akishore said:

i'm not convinced at all that a flop raise is best.

I agree, as I was typing it out I was think about how much my reasoning sucked, but I hate calling here too.

[screech]

akishore said:

button's range of hands way exceeds a gutshot. he has 9-high here a lot of times.i'm not convinced at all that a flop raise is best.aseem

If he has a 9 high, he will fold anyway.But why do you want to give 4-5 outters a profitable chance to outdraw you? Even though his handrange includes a lot more hands, you are chiefly concerned with the times he has these hands. You could say that about anytime you raise to protect your hand.

[akishore]

screech said:

akishore said:

button's range of hands way exceeds a gutshot. he has 9-high here a lot of times.i'm not convinced at all that a flop raise is best.aseem

If he has a 9 high, he will fold anyway.But why do you want to give 4-5 outters a profitable chance to outdraw you? Even though his handrange includes a lot more hands, you are chiefly concerned with the times he has these hands. You could say that about anytime you raise to protect your hand.

if he has 9 high, he's not necessariliy folding. but you don't know that since you weren't at the table, so no big deal.the thing is, if a worse hand is making a mistake in calling (or he's folding anyway), why raise when i'm wa/wb versus the preflop raiser?he three-bet me...does my gained equity the times i'm ahead (by making button call unprofitably or fold) offset the lost value the times i'm way behind or the money i lose when i'm when way ahead?(am i making sense?)it has to be a balance of all those factors.aseem

[screech]

Yeah you're making sense.If this pot were smaller, say 6SB, I think calling would be are best option for the reasons listed above.In this size pot, I think rasing is best for the reasons I listed. This of course assumes that my opponents don't call with 9 high. :-) Given your read of the button, I like keeping him in because he's drawing to runner-runner more times than not. Risk 1 to win two is always better than risk 2 to win 2.