akishore 0 Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 3/6 six maxbutton is a loose maniac type.bb is a loose/aggressive-passive gambler.i'm cutoff with A J, suits irrelevant.folds to me, i open, button cold-calls, sb folds, bb three-bets, i call, button calls.(9 SB) A K 6bb bets, i CALL (?????), button calls.(6 BB) 2bb checks, i bet (right??), button raises, bb folds, i call.(10 BB) Ai check-call... (?????)am i missing value??is this too weak/tight?is this just right??aseem Link to post Share on other sites
screech 0 Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 I'd raise the flop. Button can profitably call here with a gutshot/or a lower pair (provided it's not a pp).Turn is good.I don't know the best course of action on the river. Link to post Share on other sites
Kendren 1 Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Maybe a bet/call on the river, and yes, I think you raise that flop. but my AJ died a screaming, flaming death last night to AQ in this similar situation, so what do I know. Link to post Share on other sites
WonderfulSplash 0 Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Raise the flop. I bet/call the river against a maniac. Link to post Share on other sites
akishore 0 Posted September 30, 2005 Author Share Posted September 30, 2005 button's range of hands way exceeds a gutshot. he has 9-high here a lot of times.i'm not convinced at all that a flop raise is best.aseem Link to post Share on other sites
shpaget 0 Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 raise flop.turn looks good.bet/call river.If the button called preflop with A2s or 22, oh well....K2s is probably more likely.Then again, I've seen a lot of strange AK calls preflop lately, so you never know. Link to post Share on other sites
WonderfulSplash 0 Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 i'm not convinced at all that a flop raise is best.I agree, as I was typing it out I was think about how much my reasoning sucked, but I hate calling here too. Link to post Share on other sites
screech 0 Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 button's range of hands way exceeds a gutshot. he has 9-high here a lot of times.i'm not convinced at all that a flop raise is best.aseemIf he has a 9 high, he will fold anyway.But why do you want to give 4-5 outters a profitable chance to outdraw you? Even though his handrange includes a lot more hands, you are chiefly concerned with the times he has these hands. You could say that about anytime you raise to protect your hand. Link to post Share on other sites
akishore 0 Posted September 30, 2005 Author Share Posted September 30, 2005 button's range of hands way exceeds a gutshot. he has 9-high here a lot of times.i'm not convinced at all that a flop raise is best.aseemIf he has a 9 high, he will fold anyway.But why do you want to give 4-5 outters a profitable chance to outdraw you? Even though his handrange includes a lot more hands, you are chiefly concerned with the times he has these hands. You could say that about anytime you raise to protect your hand.if he has 9 high, he's not necessariliy folding. but you don't know that since you weren't at the table, so no big deal.the thing is, if a worse hand is making a mistake in calling (or he's folding anyway), why raise when i'm wa/wb versus the preflop raiser?he three-bet me...does my gained equity the times i'm ahead (by making button call unprofitably or fold) offset the lost value the times i'm way behind or the money i lose when i'm when way ahead?(am i making sense?)it has to be a balance of all those factors.aseem Link to post Share on other sites
screech 0 Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Yeah you're making sense.If this pot were smaller, say 6SB, I think calling would be are best option for the reasons listed above.In this size pot, I think rasing is best for the reasons I listed. This of course assumes that my opponents don't call with 9 high. :-) Given your read of the button, I like keeping him in because he's drawing to runner-runner more times than not. Risk 1 to win two is always better than risk 2 to win 2. Link to post Share on other sites
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