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#1 Markmadness

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Posted 29 January 2005 - 11:29 AM

Was this a waste of time to get involves. Just curious cause there was only 3 people in the hand. not much money in the pot. I think errors like these cost alot in the long wrongSeat 1: russellake ( $27.25)Seat 4: BillG48 ( $29.25)Seat 5: emvon ( $18.79)Seat 6: head2383 ( $9)Seat 7: giddy_D ( $32.25)Seat 8: dabossman ( $41.25)Seat 9: nestleman ( $59)Seat 10: Edsstar45 ( $20.5)nestleman posts small blind (0.25)Edsstar45 posts big blind (0.5)** Dealing down cards **Dealt to giddy_D [ Th, Ah ] russellake folds.BillG48 folds.emvon calls (0.5)head2383 folds.giddy_D calls (0.5)dabossman folds.nestleman folds.Edsstar45 checks.** Dealing Flop ** : [ 9h, 3h, Qs ] Edsstar45 checks.emvon bets (0.5)giddy_D calls (0.5)Edsstar45 folds.** Dealing Turn ** : [ 6c ] emvon bets (1)giddy_D calls (1)** Dealing River ** : [ 4s ] emvon bets (1)giddy_D folds.** Summary **Main Pot: $5.75 | Rake: $0Board: [ 9h 3h Qs 6c 4s ]russellake balance $27.25, didn't bet (folded)monk8888 balance $15, sits outBillG48 balance $29.25, didn't bet (folded)emvon balance $21.54, bet $3, collected $5.75, net +$2.75head2383 balance $9, didn't bet (folded)giddy_D balance $30.25, lost $2 (folded) dabossman balance $41.25, didn't bet (folded)nestleman balance $58.75, lost $0.25 (folded) Edsstar45 balance $20, lost $0.5 (folded)

#2 wrto4556

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Posted 29 January 2005 - 01:05 PM

on the flop you were getting 4.25-to-1 on a 4.22-to-1 draw....just barely legit. On the turn, your odds were like 3.25-t0-1 on a 4.22-to-1 draw....-EV. Stop chasing flushes heads up.
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#3 Markmadness

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Posted 29 January 2005 - 01:14 PM

Thanks man

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Posted 29 January 2005 - 01:26 PM

did you see that?? rivered
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#5 JFarrell20

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Posted 29 January 2005 - 01:32 PM

The flop call of 50 cents is OK, because you have three aces as outs and 9 outs for nut flush. That is 12 outs. Pot odds dictates a call here I believe (without doing the math). You should have folded the dollar bet on the turn though. Emvon called from early position and bet through, he's got to have something here. He ain't bluffing.

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Posted 29 January 2005 - 01:44 PM

wrto4556 said:

on the flop you were getting 4.25-to-1 on a 4.22-to-1 draw....just barely legit. On the turn, your odds were like 3.25-t0-1 on a 4.22-to-1 draw....-EV. Stop chasing flushes heads up.
Sorry, I disagree here, unless you have a solid read that someone has two pair or a set. There are likely to be more outs here than just the flush, at least 3 As and a discounted 1.5 Ts. Even without the extra outs, there are plenty of implied odds even 3 handed to call the flop. Add the extra outs its a no brainer. On the turn emvon isnt showing a lot of strength betting 1/4 of the pot. At that point I would put him on a low pair at best, possibly a weak A or solid K. If he's an awful player then maybe a small chance of a Q. You may even be ahead at this point! But give it 2 outs for discounted As and 2 outs for discounted 10s. At 13 outs there are pot odds for an easy call.... even 11 outs are sufficient.There may not be any extra implied odds unless you hit the flush and the flush card also hits him, but you dont need them.BTW, at 5.75/1 this may even be a marginal call on the river. I can put him on plenty of hands that he would play that way that your A beats.

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Posted 29 January 2005 - 01:52 PM

84s from the BB!?Not to berate, only trying to help...loose call
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Posted 29 January 2005 - 02:03 PM

wrto4556 said:

84s from the BB!?Not to berate, only trying to help...loose call
Huh? Is my computer miscing up threads?

#9 wrto4556

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Posted 29 January 2005 - 02:10 PM

no....we're playing at the same table at PP.I raise with AA and he calls with 8 :D 4 :) from the BB and catches his flush on the river.
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#10 Markmadness

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Posted 29 January 2005 - 08:47 PM

Sorry man, i felt bad for that, but there was so many people in the hand i said if i hit i get paid. Those are hands i will play in big blind if there are many people in the hand.Btw i played lousy poker today, I ended up after a 4.5 hour session, -2 bucks. Made a comeback soon after you left. Made too many mistakes, but those freaks never ever fold.

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Posted 29 January 2005 - 08:49 PM

Markmadness said:

Sorry man, i felt bad for that, but there was so many people in the hand i said if i hit i get paid.  Those are hands i will play in big blind if there are many people in the hand.Btw i played lousy poker today, I ended up after a 4.5 hour session, -2 bucks.  Made too many mistakes, but those freaks never ever fold. lol
Don't be sorry. Reading back, it sounded like I was being rude...I wasn't trying to.gg
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#12 Markmadness

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Posted 29 January 2005 - 08:53 PM

lol, i know, i apologized for you when the hand was done. I had my aces cracked 3 times out of 4 in the last two days. GGby the way, if you want some people to add to your buddylist, who are completely utterly terrible players, email me, giddyworld@hotmail.comI aint the best player but i sure can tell who is the worse.

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Posted 29 January 2005 - 10:25 PM

for the a10h hand, you should've raised pre-flop and raised on the flop. this could've bought you a free card on the turn. Aggression Aggression Aggression. your A10h should rate to be better preflop than his hand, and any time you raise preflop you should usually follow up on the flop with aggression, of course this is my nature




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