brando 0 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 (6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cxPreflop: Hero is BB with Q:diamond:, T:diamond:. UTG calls, MP calls, 3 folds, Hero checks.Flop: (3.50 SB) 9:heart:, J:heart:, 8:club: (3 players)Hero bets, UTG calls, MP calls.Turn: (6.25 BB) 8:spade: (3 players)Hero bets, UTG calls, MP calls.River: (9.25 BB) J:spade: (3 players)Hero bets, MP folds, Hero ?Pot is 12.25BB now.Is this a standard bet/ fold? Pot to big?...that river blows me Link to post Share on other sites
jayboogie 0 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 Check/Call the river, of course your probably beat here, but there's a slight chance your hand is still good and with the pot so big, it's better to be safe and call it down. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 I vote fold.I can't imagine you are wining > 8% hereunless there's a good read he's super agg Link to post Share on other sites
jayboogie 0 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 See, that's the problem with betting in the first place, I just don't see what hands are paying you off on this board, if he has a flush draw, he folds. If he has a 9, I think he may fold that too. If he has a Jack, he's obviously raising.If you check, you may induce a bluff from a missed flush draw or even a desperate bet to steal the pot with a pair of 9's. I think the pot's too big to fold, so showing this hand down cheaply is what I'd do. Link to post Share on other sites
brando 0 Posted September 29, 2005 Author Share Posted September 29, 2005 See, that's the problem with betting in the first place, I just don't see what hands are paying you off on this board, if he has a flush draw, he folds. If he has a 9, I think he may fold that too. If he has a Jack, he's obviously raising.If you check, you may induce a bluff from a missed flush draw or even a desperate bet to steal the pot with a pair of 9's. I think the pot's too big to fold, so showing this hand down cheaply is what I'd do.Sometimes I hate multi-tabling, I don't get to think everything through. This makes since and check/call is prolly best. I honestly have no clue as any hand that raises the river that I can beat, I can't even think of one. I don't know how good check/call is either...still lost Link to post Share on other sites
JaysonWeber 0 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 Sometimes I hate multi-tabling, I don't get to think everything through. You don't think through a double paired board.. you check/call, or check/fold Link to post Share on other sites
brando 0 Posted September 29, 2005 Author Share Posted September 29, 2005 Sometimes I hate multi-tabling, I don't get to think everything through. You don't think through a double paired board.. you check/call, or check/foldHA! I thought, problem was it was for 0.15397 seconds and bet/fold came to mind.Sobet/fold - bad?check/fold > check/call? Link to post Share on other sites
screech 0 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 I'm usually checking this river. No worse hands are calling a bet. Link to post Share on other sites
brando 0 Posted September 29, 2005 Author Share Posted September 29, 2005 I'm usually checking this river. No worse hands are calling a bet.Do you call a bet? Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 check/call - catch a missed FD.its close with c/fmy original fold line was if you bet first Link to post Share on other sites
Blumonkey 0 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 I'm check folding this river. MP more than likely missed his flush hence the fold and UTG filled up or caught quads in there. There is a very slight possibilty hes has the same hand you have and wants you to think he has the boat. Thats a readyou have to make and since you were multi tabling and your lack of time as you put it I would fold. Link to post Share on other sites
KDawgCometh 2 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 people on this site are way too in love with bet/fold. this is an easy check/call and a close check/fold. You gain absolutely nothing by bet/folding Link to post Share on other sites
brando 0 Posted September 29, 2005 Author Share Posted September 29, 2005 people on this site are way too in love with bet/fold. this is an easy check/call and a close check/fold. You gain absolutely nothing by bet/foldingI know bet/fold was the worst option I could have picked, like I said I wasn't really thinking. So are c/f and c/c so close it doesn't matter? Link to post Share on other sites
KDawgCometh 2 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 people on this site are way too in love with bet/fold. this is an easy check/call and a close check/fold. You gain absolutely nothing by bet/foldingI know bet/fold was the worst option I could have picked, like I said I wasn't really thinking. So are c/f and c/c so close it doesn't matter?no, it does matter, I just think that in the heat of the moment, I'm check/calling and hating myself for it Link to post Share on other sites
jayboogie 0 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 You can afford to make the call when the pot's this big, against a player who never bluffs and plays incredibly straight forward, maybe you can fold it, but just about any player may feel inclined to take a shot at the pot when shown weakness, so calling down is usually the best play given that your hand has a slight chance of still being good. Link to post Share on other sites
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