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New to the game so go ahead and flame away. Got to learn somehow. PokerStars Game #2670499963: Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2005/09/27 - 00:55:55 (ET)Table 'Gunlod' Seat #3 is the buttonSeat 1: katyrix ($55.25 in chips) Seat 2: striker2 ($28 in chips) Seat 3: CokerCpoker ($18.50 in chips) Seat 4: Puma12 ($13.35 in chips) Seat 6: jmvcuroi ($7.25 in chips) Seat 7: mxmastermike ($44.05 in chips) Seat 8: FreeSpirit48 ($11.85 in chips) Seat 9: manufqr ($25 in chips) Puma12: posts small blind $0.10jmvcuroi: posts big blind $0.25manufqr: posts big blind $0.25*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to Puma12 [Kh As 7s 2c]mxmastermike: raises $0.85 to $1.10FreeSpirit48: folds manufqr: folds katyrix: folds striker2: folds CokerCpoker: folds Puma12: calls $1jmvcuroi: folds *** FLOP *** [Ah Tc 7c]Puma12: checks mxmastermike: bets $1Puma12: raises $4.60 to $5.60mxmastermike: raises $4.60 to $10.20Puma12: calls $4.60*** TURN *** [Ah Tc 7c] [Ad]Puma12: bets $2.05 and is all-inmxmastermike: calls $2.05*** RIVER *** [Ah Tc 7c Ad] [9s]*** SHOW DOWN ***Please tell me the countless number of things I did wrong on this hand.I'll post the results later.

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It's a decent hand, but you're playing out of position. Heads-up, I suppose two pair is a reasonable high holding (though on the flop, AA, TT, and AT have you drawing nearly dead). You also have no low draw...so that really sucks. In general, I'd say wait for a better spot.That said, the turn call is good.

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I'm not quite sure of your thought process on the flop? Although top and bottom pair is a decent high hand heads- up, your low got completely counterfeited. Since villain raised pre-flop under the gun, you should be warry that he caught a piece of this flop as well. I would give up and check-fold the flop. If you're going to check-raise the flop as you did, I would consider it a bluff, hoping that villain will fold a similarly conterfeited A2 combo. So you check-raise and then he re-raises you. Oops. It was indeed a bad time to attempt a bluff. It looks like villain is trying to bait you into a call seemingly offering you decent pot odds to see a turn. Don't fall for his bait. Your bluff failed and you're likely way behind. Now you need to be able to lay this down.

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I'm not quite sure of your thought process on the flop? Although top and bottom pair is a decent high hand heads- up, your low got completely counterfeited. Since villain raised pre-flop under the gun, you should be warry that he caught a piece of this flop as well. I would give up and check-fold the flop. If you're going to check-raise the flop as you did, I would consider it a bluff, hoping that villain will fold a similarly conterfeited A2 combo. So you check-raise and then he re-raises you. Oops. It was indeed a bad time to attempt a bluff. It looks like villain is trying to bait you into a call seemingly offering you decent pot odds to see a turn. Don't fall for his bait. Your bluff failed and you're likely way behind. Now you need to be able to lay this down.
What he said. Unless he is s total manic, what does he re-raise your CR with that you beat here? The other major problem is, if you are behind you are almost drawing dead.
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Hmm, UTG max raises to open. What do you think he could have? (OK, at this limit he could have anything, but let's treat this sensibly). He almost certainly has one A if not 2, and lets give him 23 or 24 as well.Flop: If he has 2 aces then we are well behind for high and have a VERY outside chnce for low. If he has only one ace, then there is a 50% probability that he has the Ac so he could well be on a flush draw, as well as probably having a better low than us. When he bets half the pot back to you alarm bells should start going off. When he re-pots your raise you should pack up and go home.Turn: That's interesting (now we know he has Ac, :-) ). It is highly unlikely that he has AT, so you have to push what's left of your measly stack, and hope your luck continues on the river - although note that most of the cards that can come on the river will leak value for you, either by making a low or by putting a potentially higher boat on the board.

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Puma12: shows [Kh As 7s 2c] (HI: a full house, Aces full of Sevens)mxmastermike: shows [Td Qd 9d Ac] (HI: a full house, Aces full of Tens)mxmastermike collected $25.90 from potNo low hand qualified*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $27.20 | Rake $1.30 Board [Ah Tc 7c Ad 9s]Seat 1: katyrix folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 2: striker2 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 3: CokerCpoker (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 4: Puma12 (small blind) showed [Kh As 7s 2c] and lost with HI: a full house, Aces full of SevensSeat 6: jmvcuroi (big blind) folded before FlopSeat 7: mxmastermike showed [Td Qd 9d Ac] and won ($25.90) with HI: a full house, Aces full of TensSeat 8: FreeSpirit48 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 9: manufqr folded before FlopThanks for all the input.I was way behind from start. Should have laid it down but sometimes you gotta learn the hard way.For the most part you all seem to be dead on in your evaluation of this hand. Next time I will be able to get away from this and save myself some money.

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Here are my thoughts (in no particular order):1) I noticed that you only had like $2 left after your check-raise and call of your opponents re-raise. Why? Were you intending to fold to any bet on the turn, saving that last $2? 2) That was a good enough hand to play from the SB.3) You dont really have any redraws, nor a low draw, so you are basically playing for half the pot only IMO. Once it was re-raised back to you afer your check-raise, it should be an easy laydown in that situation IMO.

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