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#1 strategy

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Posted 24 September 2005 - 02:29 PM

$320 NLHE on Stars. Blinds at 1500/3000, 125 ante, 6 players remaining.Pay structure looks like this:1. 13.7k2. 9.1k3. 5.5k4. 3.7k5. 3k6. 2.3kHero has 50k chips (tight-aggressive image), big blind has 29k, button has 118k. JJ UTG, you raise to 9k. It folds around to the button who flat calls, SB and BB muck.Flop comes 762 rainbow. Roughly 22k in the middle and 41k back. Your line...?

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Posted 24 September 2005 - 03:46 PM

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$320 NLHE on Stars. Blinds at 1500/3000, 125 ante, 6 players remaining.Pay structure looks like this:1. 13.7k2. 9.1k3. 5.5k4. 3.7k5. 3k6. 2.3kHero has 50k chips (tight-aggressive image), big blind has 29k, button has 118k. JJ UTG, you raise to 9k. It folds around to the button who flat calls, SB and BB muck.Flop comes 762 rainbow. Roughly 22k in the middle and 41k back. Your line...?
Nice position to be in..props!youre right on the M bubble where long plays start to get dicey, but with that flop you want to extract as much value as you can from the JJs. You want to price out 2 overcards as much as possible without getting pot committed. With that prize structure, and assuming those are the only relevant stacks right now, I would probably go for broke on this hand,not by going all in but by inviting the button to draw to the turn, thinking he's got implied odds to go to the river if he calls and you play the turn similarly if it blanks.I would bet the same 9k. He will hopefully envision getting a minimum of 40/18 odds for two draws..a little short of what he needsto call, but too good to pass up with it being less than half the pot.If anything but a J hits then Id go all in on the turn, pricing out the last draw, and gambling if its an overcard that its the wrong one. A j I would continue the same 9k bet hoping to draw him into that last draw.Tough spot..I think there will be a lot of different lines here that make sense.Edit: BTW this may induce an all in from him either now or on the turn. I'm obviously calling.
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#3 Swift_Psycho

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Posted 24 September 2005 - 04:24 PM

Read on the button?

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Posted 24 September 2005 - 05:49 PM

Without any read on the button, I am betting 12-15k with the JJ. You are most likely ahead, and that might be small enough to entice a raise from a smaller pair. If you are raised, push. I don't think there's any way I fold this regardless of what he does.
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Posted 24 September 2005 - 10:09 PM

Swift_Psycho said:

Read on the button?
Not much. He's played ABC poker. I'd seen him open-raise from late position and fold to re-raises a few times.I'm getting the feeling that you guys aren't letting this go regardless. Six-handed with JJ and an unconnected undercard board... I think so too. If we're sitting on a 100k stack, it may be a different story.The reason I posted the prize structure is that I think it's pretty useless for us to sit around. The button is the big stack and the BB is the short stack. Anything but 2nd is really not worth waiting for, IMO. (Oh, and Gavin Anderson was the cutoff. He was pretty loose and making some really questionable calls all tournament.)Congrats to my brother on this one. We always open a chat and discuss the hands in whatever tournaments we happen to be playing.

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Posted 24 September 2005 - 10:15 PM

strategy said:

Swift_Psycho said:

Read on the button?
Not much. He's played ABC poker. I'd seen him open-raise from late position and fold to re-raises a few times.
I'm going with Zimmer's advice on this one given that read.

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Posted 27 September 2005 - 11:23 AM

This hand I could very easily go broke to. I cannot see me folding to any raise/bet on this flop. However, I dont want any weak aces/draws to get there without paying a price, so make em pay up real good IMO. At least a 3/4 sized pot bet there IMO. 8)




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