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#1 WestcoastCanuck

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Posted 23 September 2005 - 06:43 PM

6 handed, converter doesn't work. ($5/$10 Hold'em)Hero is BB, dealt 10c 7sPre-flop: UTG calls. UTG1 calls. Dealer calls. SB calls. Hero Ccecks. Flop (board: Qd Ts 7d): SB checks. Hero bets. UTG raises. UTG1 folds. Dealer re-raises. SB folds. Hero calls. UTG Caps. Dealer Calls. Hero Calls.Turn (board: Qd Ts 7d 8d): Hero checks. UTG Bets. Dealer calls. Hero calls. River (board: Qd Ts 7d 8d 9c): Hero checks. UTG Bets. Dealer calls. Hero Folds. Good? Bad?

#2 LaydownKing

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Posted 23 September 2005 - 06:45 PM

The dealer is called the button, and cap the flop.

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Posted 23 September 2005 - 06:58 PM

LaydownKing said:

The dealer is called the button.
Wow, I've played all this poker, worked my way up to 5-10, and all this time I didn't know that. Did it occur to you that I EDITED the hand history to make it easier to read? While doing this, maybe, just maybe, I left the word dealer in my post.What does capping the flop accomplish? If the dealer was on a free card play, wouldn't leading a non diamond non straight filling turn be better (if I think I am ahead)?

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Posted 23 September 2005 - 08:15 PM

I play it the same, capping the flop does't do anything and im not sure your ahead

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Posted 24 September 2005 - 03:52 AM

heads up I would say call the river, but with another person you are proabably beat. I say you played it well

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Posted 24 September 2005 - 06:43 PM

WonderfulSplash said:

I play it the same, capping the flop does't do anything and im not sure your ahead
Exactly. I was wondering if a strong case could be made for folding this turn. Im drawing to 4 outs, one (or both) of which could have some nasty reverse implied odds.

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Posted 24 September 2005 - 06:44 PM

No_Neck said:

heads up I would say call the river, but with another person you are proabably beat.  I say you played it well
Definatly. 2 active betters in this hand really sticks a fork in my hand, IMO.

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Posted 29 September 2005 - 12:38 PM

Sorry to bump, but is folding this turn way too weak tight?

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Posted 29 September 2005 - 12:53 PM

1. LayDownKing would have folded this to one bet on the flop because he is a poker genius.2. I think if you called the turn you should call the river. You know button didn't hit any sort of draw because he would have raised. That just leaves you up against UTG who might have you beat...or might just have a queen. I say call.3. I can't make up my mind about the turn. Folding might be weak, but UTG certainly has something to cap the flop against two raisers and bet again on the turn. I say either check-call turn and river or bet-fold turn. Maybe I'm weak-tight.

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Posted 29 September 2005 - 11:59 PM

speedz99 said:

1. LayDownKing would have folded this to one bet on the flop because he is a poker genius.2. I think if you called the turn you should call the river. You know button didn't hit any sort of draw because he would have raised. That just leaves you up against UTG who might have you beat...or might just have a queen. I say call.3. I can't make up my mind about the turn. Folding might be weak, but UTG certainly has something to cap the flop against two raisers and bet again on the turn. I say either check-call turn and river or bet-fold turn. Maybe I'm weak-tight.
2.) Am I calling this turn just because I think I am ahead, or am I chasing outs?3.) Im strongly leaning towards a turn fold. Against LAG opponents I wouldn't, but your average passive opponent isn't going this crazy with hands we can beat, I think.

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Posted 30 September 2005 - 01:12 AM

Your getting something close to 10-1 on the turn call. 4 outs are plenty
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Posted 30 September 2005 - 05:01 PM

Canada said:

Your getting something close to 10-1 on the turn call.  4 outs are plenty
My point/worry is I don't have 4 outs. The other hands could easily be a set + flush or top two pair + flush. Maybe I worry to much.




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