teneight 1 Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 i'm in a 12 team league. my team is pretty good. i've been offered a trade. first off, i'm going to give you my team, then the other guys team. this is a nfl.com league, so all pts are normal.td= 6pts25 passing yards: 1pt10 recieving= 1pt10 rushing= 1ptmy team:starterscarson palmerpriest holmeswillie parkerdarrel jacksonhines wardalge cumplercolts dtbench:brett favrelaman jordanlarry johnsonderrick blaylock ::picked him up this week just incase martin gets hurt:::drew bennettcardinals dtshis team:tom bradycorrey dilloncurtis martinrandy mosssteve smithjeremy shockey jetsdtbench: griesetravis henryrod smith stallwortthwiggins bengals dt.the trade:randy moss, curtis martin, correy dillon, rod smith, and stallworth jets for holmes, colts, favre, darrel jackson, hinesward, willie parkeri really want to get rid of willier parker since his stock value/trade value is at it's highest point and probably will drop since staley and bettis are getting healthy again. I have a load a RB and I'm going to get 2 more but i have to give up my top 2 wrs and holmes, for randy moss, martin and dillon..who gets the better end of the deal?? should I accept?teneight Link to post Share on other sites
Pupsta 0 Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 i must say i hate the trade...you need to upgrade and build around hines ward...i think willie parker is there to stay, personally. no reason to bench him, so i'd ride him like a rented mule.you're giving up too much, and getting too little in return. dillon seems a step slow, and cmart is about 87 years old. personally, the trade i'd offer is priest for randy and a throwin...lamont should be able to shoulder the #2 back...you'll be screwed if willie parker ever gets benched, tho Link to post Share on other sites
speedz99 145 Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 i have to give up my top 2 wrs, for randy moss and holmes..This is confusing me. Aren't you the one getting rid of holmes? Your team lists aren't matching up to your description of the trade. Link to post Share on other sites
teneight 1 Posted September 23, 2005 Author Share Posted September 23, 2005 i must say i hate the trade...you need to upgrade and build around hines ward...i think willie parker is there to stay, personally. no reason to bench him, so i'd ride him like a rented mule.you're giving up too much, and getting too little in return. dillon seems a step slow, and cmart is about 87 years old. personally, the trade i'd offer is priest for randy and a throwin...lamont should be able to shoulder the #2 back...you'll be screwed if willie parker ever gets benched, thoparker isn't there to stay, he will get benched or atleast lose some playing time to staley and bettis when they return..which is really soon. that's why i want to get rid of willie parker. so i think you are wrong there pupsta, his trade value is going to go down by week 5 or 6 when they both return. nO way am i going to ride him because he wont be the starter the whole year. trade him now before it's too late. hines ward never really does well in fantasy leagues. he's a top WR but hes a great overall WR, his numbers have never really been outstanding, but solid nonetheless. i really think Darrel jackson is going to have career numbers this year, just wait and see. palmer is going to be solid all year,. i have holmes, and if he gets hurt, i have larry johnson. lamant jordan is a solid #2 back, but i havent started him this season since i have holmes and parker, but again, parker is going to lose a lot of value in a few weeks teneight Link to post Share on other sites
Pupsta 0 Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 i must say i hate the trade...you need to upgrade and build around hines ward...i think willie parker is there to stay, personally. no reason to bench him, so i'd ride him like a rented mule.you're giving up too much, and getting too little in return. dillon seems a step slow, and cmart is about 87 years old. personally, the trade i'd offer is priest for randy and a throwin...lamont should be able to shoulder the #2 back...you'll be screwed if willie parker ever gets benched, thoparker isn't there to stay, he will get benched or atleast lose some playing time to staley and bettis when they return..which is really soon. that's why i want to get rid of willie parker. so i think you are wrong there pupsta, his trade value is going to go down by week 5 or 6 when they both return. nO way am i going to ride him because he wont be the starter the whole year. trade him now before it's too late. hines ward never really does well in fantasy leagues. he's a top WR but hes a great overall WR, his numbers have never really been outstanding, but solid nonetheless. i really think Darrel jackson is going to have career numbers this year, just wait and see. palmer is going to be solid all year,. i have holmes, and if he gets hurt, i have larry johnson. lamant jordan is a solid #2 back, but i havent started him this season since i have holmes and parker, but again, parker is going to lose a lot of value in a few weeks teneightif you think so, then offer parker straight up for randy, or offer parker + a throwin for randy...imo you need some help at WR...i'm not that high on DJ. Link to post Share on other sites
tweeds07 0 Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 I don't like the trade at all.Let's review:1. Moss > Everybody, so you're +EV with that one.2. Holmes and Parker > Martin and Dillon, -EV with that one.3. Colts > Jets, big -EV.4. IMO Jackson and Ward > Smith and Stallworth, -EV there.5. Favre sucks so +EV there.If Moss were going to bring in more points than Favre, Jackson and Ward combined then I'd say accept, but I just don't see that happening. Link to post Share on other sites
teneight 1 Posted September 23, 2005 Author Share Posted September 23, 2005 DJ will have an outstanding year. i already offered hines ward and willie parker for randy moss, but they guy dosent want ward. Link to post Share on other sites
teneight 1 Posted September 23, 2005 Author Share Posted September 23, 2005 I don't like the trade at all.Let's review:1. Moss > Everybody, so you're +EV with that one.2. Holmes and Parker > Martin and Dillon, -EV with that one.3. Colts > Jets, big -EV.4. IMO Jackson and Ward > Smith and Stallworth, -EV there.5. Favre sucks so +EV there.If Moss were going to bring in more points than Favre, Jackson and Ward combined then I'd say accept, but I just don't see that happening.how could holems and parker be > than martin and dillon? parker is going to get benched really soon. week 3 he is starting but duece staley is going to get some reps since he is healthy again. i'm sure by week 4-5 they are going to be splitting carries, then when bettis comes back, he will get most of the goal line carries. martin and dillon will get the load all year longteneight Link to post Share on other sites
teneight 1 Posted September 23, 2005 Author Share Posted September 23, 2005 i rejected the trade. i'm not that high on dillon and martin. Link to post Share on other sites
teneight 1 Posted September 23, 2005 Author Share Posted September 23, 2005 i offered someone carson palmer and willie paker for payton manning. They really need a RB. I gave them all this Bs about parker been a top rb for the rest of the year and showed him palmers numbers compared to manning.manning is really going to have a soft schedule in the next 5-6 games. palmers schedule is goin to get really toughhopefully he accepts. I've talked to him on AIM and he likes the trade but he wants to wait until this weekend is over to see how all players do. i just hope palmer and parker have a big weak and manning somehow dosent against the browns Link to post Share on other sites
tweeds07 0 Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 I don't like the trade at all.Let's review:1. Moss > Everybody, so you're +EV with that one.2. Holmes and Parker > Martin and Dillon, -EV with that one.3. Colts > Jets, big -EV.4. IMO Jackson and Ward > Smith and Stallworth, -EV there.5. Favre sucks so +EV there.If Moss were going to bring in more points than Favre, Jackson and Ward combined then I'd say accept, but I just don't see that happening.how could holems and parker be > than martin and dillon? parker is going to get benched really soon. week 3 he is starting but duece staley is going to get some reps since he is healthy again. i'm sure by week 4-5 they are going to be splitting carries, then when bettis comes back, he will get most of the goal line carries. martin and dillon will get the load all year longteneight1. Steelers named Parker the starter indefinitely.2. Martin is awful and injured (questionable for this weekend).3. Holmes is much better than Dillon. Link to post Share on other sites
Pupsta 0 Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 I don't like the trade at all.Let's review:1. Moss > Everybody, so you're +EV with that one.2. Holmes and Parker > Martin and Dillon, -EV with that one.3. Colts > Jets, big -EV.4. IMO Jackson and Ward > Smith and Stallworth, -EV there.5. Favre sucks so +EV there.If Moss were going to bring in more points than Favre, Jackson and Ward combined then I'd say accept, but I just don't see that happening.how could holems and parker be > than martin and dillon? parker is going to get benched really soon. week 3 he is starting but duece staley is going to get some reps since he is healthy again. i'm sure by week 4-5 they are going to be splitting carries, then when bettis comes back, he will get most of the goal line carries. martin and dillon will get the load all year longteneighti really think you're underestimating willie parker...just a hunch, but i think he'll be getting 80% of the carries, even with duce and bus healthy. Link to post Share on other sites
speedz99 145 Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 i offered someone carson palmer and willie paker for payton manning. They really need a RB. I gave them all this Bs about parker been a top rb for the rest of the year and showed him palmers numbers compared to manning.manning is really going to have a soft schedule in the next 5-6 games. palmers schedule is goin to get really toughhopefully he accepts. I've talked to him on AIM and he likes the trade but he wants to wait until this weekend is over to see how all players do. i just hope palmer and parker have a big weak and manning somehow dosent against the browns Haha. I have Manning, and if someone offered me that trade I'd reach through AIM and slap him upside the head. Link to post Share on other sites
teneight 1 Posted September 23, 2005 Author Share Posted September 23, 2005 i highly doubt willie parker will get 80% of the carries for the rest of the year. staley is going to take some away from him this week and he isnt even 100% healthy Link to post Share on other sites
tweeds07 0 Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 i highly doubt willie parker will get 80% of the carries for the rest of the year. staley is going to take some away from him this week and he isnt even 100% healthyI think he will, but even if he doesn't, Holmes will put up more points that Dillon and Martin combined every week, so then throw in anything from Parker and Holmes and Parker > Dillon and Martin. Link to post Share on other sites
teneight 1 Posted September 24, 2005 Author Share Posted September 24, 2005 i highly doubt willie parker will get 80% of the carries for the rest of the year. staley is going to take some away from him this week and he isnt even 100% healthyI think he will, but even if he doesn't, Holmes will put up more points that Dillon and Martin combined every week, so then throw in anything from Parker and Holmes and Parker > Dillon and Martin.that's the reason i called off the trade. i need to trade parker ASAP. i could keep him for this week but i need to trade him before his value goes down. I don't seem been putting up numbers like he did week 1-2 after week 5-6. i dont underestimate him, i just know he will lose value once staley and bettis come back. everyone knows that. that's why I should probably try to get a top WR right now for himteneight Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafs 142 Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 i just hope palmer and parker have a big weak and manning somehow dosent against the browns Manning is gonna put up Madden like numbers against the Browns. Link to post Share on other sites
krup24 0 Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 Willie Parker will start all season teneightDon't cut himCower said he IS the starter Link to post Share on other sites
teneight 1 Posted September 24, 2005 Author Share Posted September 24, 2005 Willie Parker will start all season teneightDon't cut himCower said he IS the starterhe wont start all season...trust me Link to post Share on other sites
brisk 0 Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 Haha. I have Manning, and if someone offered me that trade I'd reach through AIM and slap him upside the head.I have palmer and parker, and if someone only offered me manning i'd piss on his face (or maybe something else insulting, but not so vulgar)i have another question to pose: as i said, palmer is my starting QB ... i traded vick for burleson ... good deal? Link to post Share on other sites
teneight 1 Posted September 24, 2005 Author Share Posted September 24, 2005 i never said anything about cutting him either Link to post Share on other sites
teneight 1 Posted September 24, 2005 Author Share Posted September 24, 2005 Haha. I have Manning, and if someone offered me that trade I'd reach through AIM and slap him upside the head.i have another question to pose: as i said, palmer is my starting QB ... i traded vick for burleson ... good deal?burleson is currently hurt and probably wont play this week. it depends on the wr's you already have. plus, vick is a decent QB. if you really need a WR, i trade vick for another WRteneight Link to post Share on other sites
boyd84 0 Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 Holmes isnt as big as he was last year. Johnson is getting equal time will take alot of TDS and yards away from Holmes Link to post Share on other sites
brisk 0 Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 mi. clayton, m. muhammed, ferguson, and buress are my other receivers (we play 3) ... not great, but i'm stacked at RB and nobody is giving up WR's ... burleson will be back in a few weeks Link to post Share on other sites
SabaAba 0 Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 You are out of your mind.1) Palmer and Parker >>>> Manning (do you really think Manning will have another season like last year, c'mon) Palmer has the best offense in the league, he could be MVP this year. 2) Holmes >>> Dillon and Martin combined. The fact that you already have Larry Johnson already increases your value of Holmes since if he gets injured, you put in Johnson and lose nothing. In fact, my friend wants to play Holmes and Johnson together as combined they will probably have 30 TDs which is more than anyother 2 RB combo you will find. 3) For reason mentioned in 2) Parker is your only possible trade bait for a better WR, try get Owens. BUT, like someone else said, Parker will start the rest of the year, especially if he keeps playing like he is. You forget that Ben Roth was only a backup last season after Maddux almost had an MVP year the year before, and you didn't see Cower go back to him when he was healthy. They will ride Parker the whole year, and with that team, there is no reason their success will not continue, I would rather stay weak at 1 WR posisition and keep your current team. Link to post Share on other sites
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