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[jayboogie]

This hand is very standard and I don't know maybe even the river is standard, but I'm not entirely sure whether the correct play is to 3-bet or just call.Hero has 88 in UTG+1Hero raises utg+1, utg+2 cold calls, mp+3 cold calls, bb callsFLOP: Js 8d 6dHero bets, utg+1 calls, mp+3 calls, bb foldsDidn't like all the cold calls, but love the flop and obviously bet at it.TURN: 6cHero bets, utg+1 raises, mp+3 cold calls, hero 3-bets, utg+1 caps, mp+3 folds, hero callsThis is pretty much a money card for me and obviously I love the fact that I'm getting action here when I turn my boat. When he goes nuts on the turn, I put him on a 6 as it's hard to see him going crazy on the turn with anything less than a 6RIVER: 6sHero bets, utg+1 raises, hero?This is actually an ugly card, any other card besides this or a Jack and I'm no doubt capping the river, but given the way this hand played out, I'm not so sure about 3-betting as a 6 is a real possibile holding here with the way this hand played out, even if it's rare that he has quads. Another possible hand is JJ, but I never felt it was all that likely he has it.

[the red bull]

I'd prefer a 3-bet because you will usually get paid off by someone with a jack, which statistically is much more likely for him to have than a 6. Probably a bad analysis, but just my 2 cents.

[jayboogie]

the red bull said:

I'd prefer a 3-bet because you will usually get paid off by someone with a jack, which statistically is much more likely for him to have than a 6. Probably a bad analysis, but just my 2 cents.

You think he goes nuts on the turn with just a Jack? I mean he capped the turn, I've probably gotta give him credit for some kinda big hand.

[Egarim]

No reads on this guy makes it hard. Would he cold call ur utg raise right behind u with a 6 in his hand? a6? If he's a good/tricky player he could have a big pair. I don't know what he's capable of having here since there r no reads of the opponent. I think 3betting here is more profitable. Ur risking 2 to win 1 but I don't think he has ur 8s full beat more than 66% of the time. He could easily have a j or an overpair.The way he's played this hand makes it look like he has a monster, but if he's a bad player he's more than capable of doign this with aj. Imo, it completely depends on the opponent.

[jayboogie]

Egarim said:

No reads on this guy makes it hard. Would he cold call ur utg raise right behind u with a 6 in his hand? a6?  If he's a good/tricky player he could have a big pair.  I don't know what he's capable of having here since there r no reads of the opponent. I think 3betting here is more profitable. Ur risking 2 to win 1 but I don't think he has ur 8s full beat more than 66% of the time. He could easily have a j or an overpair.The way he's played this hand makes it look like he has a monster, but if he's a bad player he's more than capable of doign this with aj. Imo, it completely depends on the opponent.

He would possibly call my raise with a hand like 67, 68, A6 and etc. I was watching him play hands like K7 offsuit, so it was a definitely possibility. Like I said, when he went nuts on the turn, my read was that he had a 6.You've got the math the other way around. I need to be ahead here 66% of the time here to make it a break even play, because we're assuming he caps when he has me beat and for the sake of keeping it simple will only call 1 bet when he loses.This was in a middle limit game, so I mean I don't think I was playing against a complete idiot, it was really hard to put him on much else other than a 6 to be honest with the way the hand played out.

[Egarim]

Oops, it's late. I meant 33%. Well, according to what u said i see no problem with just calling then. If ur read is he has the 6 then trust it.

[the red bull]

jayboogie said:

the red bull said:

I'd prefer a 3-bet because you will usually get paid off by someone with a jack, which statistically is much more likely for him to have than a 6. Probably a bad analysis, but just my 2 cents.

You think he goes nuts on the turn with just a Jack? I mean he capped the turn, I've probably gotta give him credit for some kinda big hand.

Maybe AJ or J8 or something similiar.To be truthful, i just skimmeded through the post. I didn't put that much thoguht into it. I forgot that he capped the turn. Whatever. I'm stupid.

[akishore]

haven't read replies, but i just call.statistics shmatistics. yes, i know it's more likely he has a jack, but i don't know many people who *cap* the turn with just a jack (maybe a J-8 suited?).A-6 suited or 6-5 suited or 7-6 suited are very realistic preflop cold-calling hands.this is *usually* a win-one-lose-two situation... just call the raise.aseem

[KDawgCometh]

I'd just call the raise, I'd even had thought of check/calling that river, but I can't see any logical reason for a three bet, that's just spewing

[WaitingforMyRuca]

I just call here. Unless this guy hates money I wouldn't be surprised if he showed a 6 something. Honestly I wouldn't be all that surprised if he had a couple of jacks in his pocket.