tough laydown - but was it correct?
Started by Matt Over Aces, Sep 21 2005 04:40 AM
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#1
Posted 21 September 2005 - 04:40 AM
Playing in the "Big Game" at Turning Stone Casino on a Friday night ($300 min buy in NL Hold-em, 5/10 blinds, 20 bring-in) the following hand came up:My stack at the start of the hand was about $2200. I was in MP with 2
2
. I limped after an early player limped, the blinds followed in and we saw a 4-handed flop of A
2
3
. I love and hate the flop, but when it is checked to me, I bet roughly the pot, $90. An old pro who is in seat 1 quickly raises me 150 more. The BB takes his time (with an obvious flush draw) and then calls. The EP limper folds and it's back to me. I debate waiting to see the turn before putting in more money, but I decide that since there is at least one person drawing to the flush, I want to make him pay for it. It comes back to me and I raise $700 more. The pro looks at me, says "You raised? I'm all in" with way more confidence than I'd ever like to be raised with. The guy with the flush draw puts in his last $800 and it's back on me.I think for about 2 minutes, knowing that if he has 33, I'm dead to one out, but if he has 45 for the nut straight, I am getting the correct price to gamble. I finally decide that there is a decent chance he has 33, I know that I am at least against 45 and so I fold my set face up.He turns over 45 for the nut straight. The flush never got there, but the turn was a 2
that would have made me quads.By the way, I also know that I made a mistake by raising so much and making it a much tougher decision for me. I folded with the reasoning that was was 95% certain that I was beat, I was just 50/50 on whether I was losing to a straight or a higher set.I know it only seems like I made a mistake because my card came, but what would you do in this situation.
#2
Posted 21 September 2005 - 06:07 AM
Wrong section to post.
#3
Posted 21 September 2005 - 11:04 AM
Here I am thinking DN had some knowledge to sharre about this situation, and its just some goofball who doesnt know what section to post in. What a waste of 45 seconds of my life.Fold pre-flop.
#4
Posted 22 September 2005 - 07:28 PM
this seems to be a pretty simple odds calculation. how much was the all in? does he have you covered?i don't think 33 goes all in here considering the action in front, because he's thinking like you did if he has a set: do i want to see another safe card? he's got a made str8 or flush, which means you're drawing to boat outs, which are roughly 35%. figuring that, do a simple bet/pot comparison. what is the pot size after the push?
#5
Posted 26 September 2005 - 06:09 AM
Checky your math is off he doesn't have 35% of filling up.
#6
Posted 26 September 2005 - 06:32 AM
joeltebbutt said:
Checky your math is off he doesn't have 35% of filling up.
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