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#1 Stylin_Fish

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Posted 20 September 2005 - 09:01 PM

Well I play in a home game with some people where we all take turns dealing. We do a normal old fashioned shuffle and cut the cards once. Everytime it come to this one guy to shuffle and deal he only shuffles like 2-3 times and cuts. I usually always ask him to shuffle the deck once or twice more and he gets upset about it and then goes on a "is that a enough shuffling for you" binge for the rest of the night. Do you think I out of line or being overly anal about shuffling? What do you all think is the "normal" amount of times you should shuffle.

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Posted 20 September 2005 - 09:04 PM

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Posted 20 September 2005 - 09:05 PM

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I'm not as picky....I go with 123465498798121654698496845.

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Posted 20 September 2005 - 09:06 PM

So you're saying I'm being overly anal about it?

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Posted 20 September 2005 - 09:07 PM

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So you're saying I'm being overly anal about it?
nah, I like to have the deck shuffled 5 times and then cut, no clue what the "norm" for it is though.
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Posted 20 September 2005 - 09:08 PM

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So you're saying I'm being overly anal about it?
I usually go about 3 times, maybe 4, depends how good I feel I got them shuffled... cause I dont want to waste too much time...But yeah, maybe a bit... but he sounds like he's being even more of a douche about it.
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Posted 20 September 2005 - 09:11 PM

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So you're saying I'm being overly anal about it?
I usually go about 3 times, maybe 4, depends how good I feel I got them shuffled... cause I dont want to waste too much time...But yeah, maybe a bit... but he sounds like he's being even more of a douche about it.
3 to 5 is about right. I use 2 decks at my games, so it gets more than that usaully.

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Posted 20 September 2005 - 09:12 PM

5 times is good.Tell him to shut his faggy yap-hole and just do it.

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Posted 20 September 2005 - 09:12 PM

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Posted 20 September 2005 - 09:14 PM

a "truley random" shuffle is suposedly, seven times.

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Posted 20 September 2005 - 09:14 PM

Cool, they censor "faggy".+1

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Posted 20 September 2005 - 09:34 PM

you can solve the problem by using two decks and having a back shuffle system going.e.g. as button is dealing, CO is shuffling. when the hand is over, Button collects the cards and starts shuffling while the CO hands his deck to SB who cuts it and deals. SB is the new button, Button is now the CO, and CO is now Hijack. so now, the new CO (old Button) is shuffling while the new Button (old SB) is dealing, etc.aseem
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Posted 20 September 2005 - 09:37 PM

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you can solve the problem by using two decks and having a back shuffle system going.e.g. as button is dealing, CO is shuffling. when the hand is over, Button collects the cards and starts shuffling while the CO hands his deck to SB who cuts it and deals. SB is the new button, Button is now the CO, and CO is now Hijack. so now, the new CO (old Button) is shuffling while the new Button (old SB) is dealing, etc.aseem
Yeah, I do this at a different home game but not at this one.

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Posted 20 September 2005 - 09:37 PM

People have home games and only use 1 deck?? Who does that??

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Posted 20 September 2005 - 09:50 PM

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People have home games and only use 1 deck?? Who does that??
I dont play with these people that often so we don't even bother making a consistant setup.

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Posted 21 September 2005 - 02:25 PM

It's funny to see poker players who don't know how to shuffle a deck of cards. I guess some people really never have played in a casino. the standard shuffle is riffle riffle, strip riffle... every home game where i live has a professional dealer. if you play 5-10 and up or even 3-6 you might think about finding someone to deal. the tips are usually worth it for whoever does it.

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Posted 21 September 2005 - 02:34 PM

anyone know of a card shuffler that actually works?

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Posted 21 September 2005 - 02:36 PM

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It's funny to see poker players who don't know how to shuffle a deck of cards.  I guess some people really never have played in a casino.  the standard shuffle is riffle riffle, strip riffle...  every home game where i live has a professional dealer.  if you play 5-10 and up or even 3-6 you might think about finding someone to deal.  the tips are usually worth it for whoever does it.
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Posted 21 September 2005 - 02:46 PM

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It's funny to see poker players who don't know how to shuffle a deck of cards.  I guess some people really never have played in a casino.  the standard shuffle is riffle riffle, strip riffle...  every home game where i live has a professional dealer.  if you play 5-10 and up or even 3-6 you might think about finding someone to deal.  the tips are usually worth it for whoever does it.
yep, the standard "casino" shuffle is riffle riffle strip riffle cut, or riffle strip riffle riffle cut, depends on what casino you're at.And my homegame has a fulltime dealer that works on tips. Makes a big difference I think
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Posted 21 September 2005 - 02:53 PM

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you can solve the problem by using two decks and having a back shuffle system going.e.g. as button is dealing, CO is shuffling. when the hand is over, Button collects the cards and starts shuffling while the CO hands his deck to SB who cuts it and deals. SB is the new button, Button is now the CO, and CO is now Hijack. so now, the new CO (old Button) is shuffling while the new Button (old SB) is dealing, etc.aseem
Yeah, I do this at a different home game but not at this one.
Why on earth would you want the CO to shuffle? He has to act before the small blind and on top of that you have to pass the cards to your left + 1. Shuffle ahead, the SB shuffles and sets the cards to his right, he should be able to shuffle 7 times before tha action gets to him. As soon as the hand is over, the new SB collects the cards the last dealer cuts and you deal away. I know people have preferences, but this topic has been discussed multiple times in our rooms over the past decade or so. Consensus is to shuffle ahead. My $.02




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