TruePoker 1 Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 Over all the AA hands, what is the percentage that they hold up in heads up against any random hand? I guess its about 60 - 80%.Then what about in 3 way, My guess is about 40 - 50%Anyone know these? Link to post Share on other sites
HurricaneKyle 0 Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 No hand is greater than a 60% favorite pf in Omaha high. Link to post Share on other sites
teneight 1 Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 Over all the AA hands, what is the percentage that they hold up in heads up against any random hand? I guess its about 60 - 80%.Then what about in 3 way, My guess is about 40 - 50%Anyone know these?I think you are wrong here. this is omaha, AA couldn't be more of a 60-65% fav. heads up3 way, no more than 40-45%teneight Link to post Share on other sites
kevinoc85 0 Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 Heads up, AAxx can be up to a 73% favorite over certain hands. In a 3 way pot, it can be up to a 94% favorite due to other people sharing cards. Link to post Share on other sites
TruePoker 1 Posted September 19, 2005 Author Share Posted September 19, 2005 Heads up, AAxx can be up to a 73% favorite over certain hands. In a 3 way pot, it can be up to a 94% favorite due to other people sharing cards.What is the worst that AAxx can be in heads up and three way ? Link to post Share on other sites
RhinestoneCowboy 2 Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 Heads up, AAxx can be up to a 73% favorite over certain hands. In a 3 way pot, it can be up to a 94% favorite due to other people sharing cards.What is the worst that AAxx can be in heads up and three way ?Just a guess, if you were 4 suited up against 2 players that were double suited in all 4 suits together, and they both had hands like 5678 and 910jq..you would have pretty low odds to win Link to post Share on other sites
TruePoker 1 Posted September 19, 2005 Author Share Posted September 19, 2005 Heads up, AAxx can be up to a 73% favorite over certain hands. In a 3 way pot, it can be up to a 94% favorite due to other people sharing cards.What is the worst that AAxx can be in heads up and three way ?Just a guess, if you were 4 suited up against 2 players that were double suited in all 4 suits together, and they both had hands like 5678 and 910jq..you would have pretty low odds to winJust wondered percentages really, but it would be interesting to know the hands aswell. Link to post Share on other sites
econ_tim 0 Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 from the cardplayer odds calculator[AA23] rainbow 21.8%[JT98] double suited 44%[7645] double suited (not sharing suits with the other wrap) 34.2%I think you could get worse numbers when you have [AAxx] vs [AAxx] vs ds wrap. Link to post Share on other sites
kevinoc85 0 Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 AAKK double suited is an 84% to 16% favorite over KK22 unsuited. AAxx can't lose vs 7722 rainbow and 7722 rainbow in a 3 way pot. Link to post Share on other sites
Kendren 1 Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 Right, with AAT9 DS vs KKT9 os, you're in the same place as hold em AA vs KK. Possibly 82-18. Link to post Share on other sites
dingas 0 Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 AA109 double suited has 100% chance to win against 2222 -- KKKK Link to post Share on other sites
TJ_Eckleburg 0 Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 This is all cute, but impractical.For practical purposes, I think we're all better off by letting the flop define our hands. THEN start deciding percentages for betting purposes. Link to post Share on other sites
agsa6079 0 Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 Generally speaking, it's hard to find any hand that's going to be more than a 60% preflop favorite in Omaha. AAxx isn't even a viable starting hand out of position to a large raise, IMHO. Now, it's possible to reraise with this hand to try and narrow the field down, but it's a dead giveaway to any Omaha player with some experience. I rarely raise with this hand, and usually try to see the flop as cheap as possible unless I'm suited or str8ing in some way. It's value goes up greatly as the xx become suited or str8 cards. Link to post Share on other sites
agsa6079 0 Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 Generally speaking, it's hard to find any hand that's going to be more than a 60% preflop favorite in Omaha. AAxx isn't even a viable starting hand out of position to a large raise, IMHO. Now, it's possible to reraise with this hand to try and narrow the field down, but it's a dead giveaway to any Omaha player with some experience. I rarely raise with this hand, and usually try to see the flop as cheap as possible unless I'm suited or str8ing in some way. It's value goes up greatly as the xx become suited or str8 cards. Link to post Share on other sites
gergery 0 Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 Over all the AA hands, what is the percentage that they hold up in heads up against any random hand? I guess its about 60 - 80%.Then what about in 3 way, My guess is about 40 - 50%Anyone know these?The actual number is far less relevant than how often your you will win in the scenarios where your opponents will call your flop bets.-g Link to post Share on other sites
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