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#1 TruePoker

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Posted 19 September 2005 - 11:04 AM

Over all the AA hands, what is the percentage that they hold up in heads up against any random hand? I guess its about 60 - 80%.Then what about in 3 way, My guess is about 40 - 50%Anyone know these?
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Posted 19 September 2005 - 11:06 AM

No hand is greater than a 60% favorite pf in Omaha high.
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Posted 19 September 2005 - 11:07 AM

TruePoker said:

Over all the AA hands, what is the percentage that they hold up in heads up against any random hand? I guess its about 60 - 80%.Then what about in 3 way, My guess is about 40 - 50%Anyone know these?
I think you are wrong here. this is omaha, AA couldn't be more of a 60-65% fav. heads up3 way, no more than 40-45%teneight

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Posted 19 September 2005 - 11:13 AM

Heads up, AAxx can be up to a 73% favorite over certain hands. In a 3 way pot, it can be up to a 94% favorite due to other people sharing cards.

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Posted 19 September 2005 - 11:14 AM

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Heads up, AAxx can be up to a 73% favorite over certain hands. In a 3 way pot, it can be up to a 94% favorite due to other people sharing cards.
What is the worst that AAxx can be in heads up and three way ?
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Posted 19 September 2005 - 11:30 AM

TruePoker said:

kevinoc85 said:

Heads up, AAxx can be up to a 73% favorite over certain hands. In a 3 way pot, it can be up to a 94% favorite due to other people sharing cards.
What is the worst that AAxx can be in heads up and three way ?
Just a guess, if you were 4 suited up against 2 players that were double suited in all 4 suits together, and they both had hands like 5678 and 910jq..you would have pretty low odds to win
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Posted 19 September 2005 - 11:39 AM

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TruePoker said:

kevinoc85 said:

Heads up, AAxx can be up to a 73% favorite over certain hands. In a 3 way pot, it can be up to a 94% favorite due to other people sharing cards.
What is the worst that AAxx can be in heads up and three way ?
Just a guess, if you were 4 suited up against 2 players that were double suited in all 4 suits together, and they both had hands like 5678 and 910jq..you would have pretty low odds to win
Just wondered percentages really, but it would be interesting to know the hands aswell.
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Posted 19 September 2005 - 12:02 PM

from the cardplayer odds calculator[AA23] rainbow 21.8%[JT98] double suited 44%[7645] double suited (not sharing suits with the other wrap) 34.2%I think you could get worse numbers when you have [AAxx] vs [AAxx] vs ds wrap.

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Posted 20 October 2005 - 01:57 PM

AAKK double suited is an 84% to 16% favorite over KK22 unsuited. AAxx can't lose vs 7722 rainbow and 7722 rainbow in a 3 way pot.

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Posted 20 October 2005 - 09:16 PM

Right, with AAT9 DS vs KKT9 os, you're in the same place as hold em AA vs KK. Possibly 82-18.

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Posted 21 October 2005 - 03:49 AM

AA109 double suited has 100% chance to win against 2222 -- KKKK

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Posted 21 October 2005 - 05:51 AM

This is all cute, but impractical.For practical purposes, I think we're all better off by letting the flop define our hands. THEN start deciding percentages for betting purposes.
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Posted 21 October 2005 - 08:39 AM

Generally speaking, it's hard to find any hand that's going to be more than a 60% preflop favorite in Omaha. AAxx isn't even a viable starting hand out of position to a large raise, IMHO. Now, it's possible to reraise with this hand to try and narrow the field down, but it's a dead giveaway to any Omaha player with some experience. I rarely raise with this hand, and usually try to see the flop as cheap as possible unless I'm suited or str8ing in some way. It's value goes up greatly as the xx become suited or str8 cards.

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Posted 21 October 2005 - 08:40 AM

Generally speaking, it's hard to find any hand that's going to be more than a 60% preflop favorite in Omaha. AAxx isn't even a viable starting hand out of position to a large raise, IMHO. Now, it's possible to reraise with this hand to try and narrow the field down, but it's a dead giveaway to any Omaha player with some experience. I rarely raise with this hand, and usually try to see the flop as cheap as possible unless I'm suited or str8ing in some way. It's value goes up greatly as the xx become suited or str8 cards.

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Posted 21 October 2005 - 12:17 PM

TruePoker said:

Over all the AA hands, what is the percentage that they hold up in heads up against any random hand? I guess its about 60 - 80%.Then what about in 3 way, My guess is about 40 - 50%Anyone know these?
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