I don't see why 2+2ers are being so territorial about their PLO8 forum.The game is not that complicated. Granted, I'm just learning it, but I think it is easier to beat than LHE. Probably also easier to master.
Nobody from 2+2 would disagree with this (that PLO8 is easy). However, there are many ways to skin the PLO8 cat, and since the general consensus on this forum seems to favor a much tighter, less aggressive strategy than you would find at 2+2, a discussion about which approach is optimal (or closer to optimal) seems mutually beneficial.
Second, why can't they admit that the hand in question comes down to what range of hands we put Villain on, conditional on him repotting the flop. A few 2+2ers have talked about hand ranges, but they won't consider the Villain's hand range could be one against we're a big enough dog to fold here. There's no way to put the Villain on a tight range of hands from the information in the OP, but at least concede that some Villains at the $100 level will be raising with strong cards here and that it is not too hard to tell what types of players do this.
The repotting on the flop condition is taken into account; nobody is arguing that we assign the same range of hands to the villian that we would based on the preflop action alone... Put it this way; some villians at the $100 levels will indeed only be raising here with hands that have OP's hand dominated; however, only the tighest postflop players fall into this category, and they are by far in the minority at all levels of partypoker, especially the middle limits. Barring a specific player read like this, it is definitely the case that assigning a range of hands that makes a call here wrong is a mistake that will cause suboptimal winrate in the long run (although it will have the benefit of reducing your variance, which may be desirable if there are bankroll concerns). There is no way to prove this, but experience will bear this truth out. Even in the case where I knew the player was tight postflop, however, I think the range of possible hands is wide enough to merit a call on the grounds of not only EV but also table image and other meta-game issues. That last point, I concede, is definitely debatable.
Third, what is the point of calling out FCP players (as one 2+2 poster has done) and suggesting that players taunt certain screennames at the table? I'd expect this from NWP or some other "cool kids" site, but I guess some 2+2ers are online badasses as well.
I agree that this aspect of the thread has grown pointless, but I'll defend my initial right to unmask an obvious lie directed personally at me, which I've now done to my complete satisfaction.